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Message Subject: Esox Oddities!
Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/8/2014 12:58 PM (#705404 - in reply to #705081)
Subject: Re: Esox Oddities!




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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
These next Oddities are unique to the US and indeed the state of Pennsylvania. Many years ago, PA brought some "Russian Muskies" as they were called early on to that state. The known world record of 24-3 by Fred Daley from Glendale Lake, for the species of Amur Pike (Esox reicherti) was reared and caught there, although it is entirely possible larger have been caught from the Amur River between Russia and China.

But even odder is the hybrid cross between an Amur Pike and Northern Pike. The photo shows a very decent specimen, but there is no world record category for this hybrid.


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Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/8/2014 1:04 PM (#705405 - in reply to #705081)
Subject: Re: Esox Oddities!




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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
Note: Forgot to mention that the hybrid N. Pike x Grass Pickerel is the all-tackle world record. It was caught by Joseph C. Seidl from Lake Wapogasset, Wisconsin.

Well, some people are horny and so were a couple of Northern Pike. Both of the following appeared in back issues of In-Fisherman magazine.


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ToothTamer
Posted 4/8/2014 1:34 PM (#705410 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: Lake St.Clair
Now that my friend is one cool pike!^^ never thought there would be a dragon swimming around.
Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/8/2014 3:01 PM (#705430 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
How about a pike with no tail? This one was caught by Doug Stange from Pine Lake in Minnesota and appeared in the April 1997 issue of In-Fisherman.


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muskyrat
Posted 4/8/2014 4:32 PM (#705445 - in reply to #705081)
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My guess would be Redfin pickerel x Pike. Those Redfin or Grass pickerel are awesome in a fish tank. How awesome would it be to get a fresh supply of Amur pike in PA today?
Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/9/2014 8:06 AM (#705562 - in reply to #705081)
Subject: Re: Esox Oddities!




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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
How about a couple of Odd bellied Esox? The first is a Pike that is completely patterned throughout the belly area.

The second fish (two pics) is a spectacular Jaguar patterned muskie from the Kawartha Lakes in Ontario. This was first published on the Muskie's, Inc. website.


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Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/9/2014 8:11 AM (#705565 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
Odd Esox would have to include this goofy 33 inch Minnesota Pike that tried to eat a 40 inch muskie! I guess you can't use lures too big for Pike either!


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Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/9/2014 8:14 AM (#705569 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
We've had a Pike without a tail, how about a muskie with an extra pelvic fin? Look close behind the lower of the two rear paired fins.


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Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/9/2014 8:22 AM (#705571 - in reply to #705081)
Subject: Re: Esox Oddities!




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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
Odd color patterns show up occasionally as well. The first photo is of Joe Pestka with an unusually marked muskie.

The second photo a vividly and unusually marked Pike (possibly a hybrid?) from Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. It was caught by Lee Radtke and supplied to me by Don Dubin.

The third photo is of an unusually marked Pike in vast contrast with the previous one, with hardly any markings at all. Another possible hybrid of some variety? It was caught in Lake Tomahawk, Wisconsin


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Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/9/2014 8:28 AM (#705573 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
Odd and FAT tummies count too. I've already put this in the BIG muskies thread, but felt it is so odd that it must be included here too. At 44.50 inches long and weighing 43 pounds, this fish's ovarian problem is quite obvious. It first appeared in the May/June 1995 issue of In-Fisherman magazine.


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Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/9/2014 8:33 AM (#705575 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
And last, but certainly not least (I think) is one you will have to make up your own mind about. It is a photo I received in an email in 2002 of a "supposed" Siamese Pike. It was supposedly caught from the Ottertail River near Wahpeton, North Dakota in 2001 and was supposedly caught by a Donald Taylor of Wahpeton. Personally, I think it was a good job of photoshopping, but a good one to end this Odd thread with! Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did bringing it to you!!...Larry


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Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/9/2014 9:14 AM (#705594 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
Well, I'm done with my Oddities file, but just received this unusually marked fish (white spots on back) from Corey Meyer. It is a photo of an approximate 4 foot Chippewa Flowage, Wisconsin muskie. Click on photo to see it all.

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dfkiii
Posted 4/9/2014 10:58 AM (#705620 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: Sawyer County, WI
Thanks for an enjoyable thread Larry !
Brozz88
Posted 4/9/2014 9:47 PM (#705771 - in reply to #705081)
Subject: RE: Esox Oddities!




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That'd be a cool mount of that ugly monster! That might be a fish Id have to keep, if I caught a mutant musky.I bet lax might have trouble reproduceing that one.
Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/10/2014 10:30 AM (#705849 - in reply to #705081)
Subject: Re: Esox Oddities!




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I got another email from my Pike Ferret friend Jan Eggers with some neat European Esox (Pike) Oddities.

Here are two different two-tone pike (opposites of each other) done length ways.


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ShutUpNFish
Posted 4/10/2014 11:06 AM (#705860 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: Money, PA

I think more of an old injury than a hereditary oddity, but certainly an oddity nonetheless Larry.....Love the thread!

jimjimjim
Posted 4/10/2014 5:36 PM (#705964 - in reply to #705860)
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about 20 years ago on Pewaukee Lake (Wisconsin) ,, I caught a 36" musky that was a bright yellow-gold color ??? ,, released it ,but never saw it again ---- jim

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Jliebig
Posted 4/11/2014 2:05 PM (#706170 - in reply to #705081)
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Interesting read. Thanks Larry!
FishFinder87
Posted 4/15/2015 8:24 AM (#764926 - in reply to #705575)
Subject: Re: Esox Oddities!





Larry Ramsell - 4/9/2014 8:33 AM

And last, but certainly not least (I think) is one you will have to make up your own mind about. It is a photo I received in an email in 2002 of a "supposed" Siamese Pike. It was supposedly caught from the Ottertail River near Wahpeton, North Dakota in 2001 and was supposedly caught by a Donald Taylor of Wahpeton. Personally, I think it was a good job of photoshopping, but a good one to end this Odd thread with! Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did bringing it to you!!...Larry



This is two fish, the one has it's nose in the other's gill plate. Check out this link:

http://ontariofishingcommunity.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32889

Edited by FishFinder87 4/15/2015 8:26 AM
Chemi
Posted 4/15/2015 8:59 AM (#764936 - in reply to #705081)
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I wonder if those two-tone fish are genetic chimeras. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)



Edited by Chemi 4/15/2015 9:08 AM
Roger from Sweden
Posted 8/16/2015 3:28 AM (#780611 - in reply to #705081)
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Hi, me and my friends Mats, Marco och Giovanni caught a dossen beautifuly colored esox at Lago Di Vico in Italy (50 km north from Rome) this spring.
Coloration aws stunning and differed between individuals.


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Chico R
Posted 8/16/2015 8:23 PM (#780702 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: North Metro, MN
Awesome post, it's pretty cool seeing all the freaks! You just never know what that next cast will bring. I caught a couple weirdos in the Metro I would like to share, one I named "Squiggles". It was about a 40" Musky that had lines all over the top half of both sides. It literally looked like it had a lake map on it but didn't look like scars. Also caught a cool looking mid-thirty inch Pike that was two-tone...I'll never forget that one, looked half dead. If anyone has caught a similar/ knows anything about "Squiggles" let me know!
Slamr
Posted 1/5/2018 6:36 AM (#888929 - in reply to #705081)
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Spam brought it back, but still some cool stuff in this old thread.
ToddM
Posted 1/5/2018 7:18 AM (#888931 - in reply to #705081)
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Thank you Spam!


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8HPTROLLER
Posted 1/5/2018 10:22 AM (#888961 - in reply to #705081)
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Put 3 or 4 slices in the frying pan, then slather them up with mustard. I can remember those lunches from when I was a kid.
Rich
mnmusky
Posted 6/17/2023 1:56 PM (#1021715 - in reply to #705849)
Subject: Re: Esox Oddities!




Larry Ramsell - 4/10/2014 10:30 AM

I got another email from my Pike Ferret friend Jan Eggers with some neat European Esox (Pike) Oddities.

Here are two different two-tone pike (opposites of each other) done length ways.



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