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muskyrat
Posted 4/5/2014 6:54 PM (#704746 - in reply to #704652)
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WOW!
irish piker
Posted 4/6/2014 6:58 AM (#704806 - in reply to #697871)
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45lb 08oz. river Thurne ,england, 2008. John Goble



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curdmudgeon
Posted 4/6/2014 8:24 AM (#704820 - in reply to #697871)
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poor guy broke his leg lifting the heffer.
irish piker
Posted 4/6/2014 3:51 PM (#704909 - in reply to #697871)
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He looks like he's under pressure alright.!She's a porker.
Another from the Thurne.many years earlier.

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irish piker
Posted 4/6/2014 5:11 PM (#704934 - in reply to #697871)
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Peter hancock. 40lb 1 oz .Horsey Mere.
For anyone who's interested in these things,the river Thurne and the meres are part of the Norfolk Broads.(rivers,shallow lakes and tidal waters)


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irish piker
Posted 4/6/2014 5:30 PM (#704938 - in reply to #704652)
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Larry Ramsell - 4/5/2014 9:02 AM

Looks more like eggs. Must have been just pre-spawn.


iirc it was mid to late summer and some of the fish had retained spawn due to some really crazy weather that year.Chew is an amazing place for big pike.It's just a small shallow reservoir, and every year it throws out lots of 30lb+ pike and a couple of 40+. 20's are hardly even photographed there now! and there are lots of those too.
It get's stocked with thousands of rainbow trout every year and has stocks of coarse fish,and the pike fishing (with lures + deadbaits) is limited to a few weeks in autumn and spring.Fly fishing for pike is allowed all year round.

40lb 08. On the fly!!


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irish piker
Posted 4/6/2014 5:44 PM (#704939 - in reply to #697871)
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A real fatty.She's probably been hoovering up dead rainbows



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PJV
Posted 4/6/2014 6:18 PM (#704948 - in reply to #704939)
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Irish Piker, thanks for sharing all of these images! It makes a guy think about a trip over there.

You say that the season is only open at certain times of year... Would you be willing to share what time of year that is, via private message, of course?

Secondly, how is the catch and release ethic there? Many of these fish appear to to be taken from shore, and photographed over some sort of plastic or vinyl coverlet. Without judgement, I'm curious t know whether these fish are typically kept, or are released.
irish piker
Posted 4/7/2014 6:39 AM (#705001 - in reply to #697871)
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Chew valley lake is a reservoir near bristol in England.It is managed as a trout fishery by the water co. who own it,but every year they have a phone-in where pike anglers can book day tickets to fish from boat or bank with lures and deadbaits.Numbers are limited.
Lots of trout waters do this and the fishing goes through booms and busts,but Chew just keeps producing big fish year after year.

On natural or un-privatised lakes there's no closed season and the rivers have a closed season for 3 months.

Here in Ireland,there are no close seasons for pike or coarse fish.
Pike are still seen as vermin here by the Irish fishery board, and they cull them in our biggest and most beautiful lakes.Lakes like Lough Corrib,Mask,Conn and Sheelin are steeped in the history of huge pike, but our fisheries board kill them because they eat some trout.Simple as that, no arguing with them.

Years of gill netting of pike has not led to improvements in the trout fishing but they never learn.

Re; catch and release.Most big fish anglers and coarse anglers,(bream,tench,roach,rudd,carp, are some of the more popular species) practice catch and release here and in the u.k..Most use soft padded unhooking mats or wet plastic sheets to lay the fish on and padded or mesh weigh slings to minimise damage when handling them.
There are still people who kill big pike don't get me wrong,but you'll always get some people who want take their catch home and That's o.k if you leave the big girls alone.
If you killed a big fish on Chew you would be lynched!

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irish piker
Posted 4/7/2014 8:22 AM (#705032 - in reply to #697871)
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A recent capture from Lough Derg on the Shannon river system in Ireland.Thankfully no gill nets there .yet. 35lb.
There are lots of lakes and rivers in Ireland where pike aren't culled so there is plenty of good fishing available with a little effort.

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Rick James
Posted 4/8/2014 10:10 AM (#705362 - in reply to #697871)
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Location: Cary, IL - Upstate, NY

I'm hesitant to post a lot on here regarding this, I posted once in the past about Sacandaga and Dubuc's NA record pike and got publicly blasted by a skeptical forum member. 

My entire family lives in the village of Northville, NY on Great Sacandaga.  I've spent a LOT of time there and I consider it my "home" water.  There are definitely big pike, but there aren't great numbers of them and there are very few people left that really know how to catch them.  Every year a handful of 45-50" fish get caught, but it's a pretty small group of people doing the catching and they are pretty tight lipped.

More info on the lake for those interested on the link below.  If anyone is curious to learn more about the lake or some of the fish we have caught PM me, I'd rather not share publicly.

http://www.finefishing.com/1freshfish/aaspecies/pikemusky/pikerecord.htm

 

Larry Ramsell - 3/10/2014  First I'm posting a photo of Peter Dubec who caught lots of giant pike from Sacandaga Reservior in New York in the early 1940's and should likely be the North American record holder. The Pike Mr. Dubec is shown with is NOT his largest by far. My next photo will show you why he doesn't hold the record. Correction: Mr. Dubec IS the N. American record holder...



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Larry Ramsell
Posted 4/8/2014 12:45 PM (#705397 - in reply to #697871)
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
In 1939, Peter Dubuc won fist place in the Field & Stream contest with a Pike of 35 pounds 6 ounces. In 1940 Mr. Dubuc won first place in both the F&S contest and the Hunting & Fishing magazine contests with his 46 pound 2 ounce North American record. In 1941 Mr. Dubuc garnered 2nd place in the F&S contest with a 33 pound 4 ounce Pike. He likewise got 2nd place in 1942 with a 32-10. All were caught from Sacandaga Reservior, N.Y. After that his name no longer appeared in contest listings.
corny13
Posted 4/8/2014 10:13 PM (#705536 - in reply to #705397)
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Location: Leech Lake
Look at Lake Winnipeg in Manitoba for some Massive pike, I was up there this winter mid lake fishing for giant walleyes and talked to several netters that report over 50" Northerns wrecking their walleye nets. Uncut angling has a funny video that about half way though shows one of these big pike caught with a net..looks to me well over 50" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hBfS2nqjYw
ARmuskyaddict
Posted 11/25/2014 10:30 AM (#741620 - in reply to #697871)
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How would you like this as a bonus fish? 53 15/16 with one metric conversion tool.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=732909583467726
achotrod
Posted 11/25/2014 11:06 AM (#741628 - in reply to #697871)
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Why do these pike always look so massive compared to big muskies?
esoxaddict
Posted 11/25/2014 11:13 AM (#741630 - in reply to #697871)
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Makes you wonder about all the supposed 40# muskies you see pictures of, doesn't it?

woodieb8
Posted 11/25/2014 11:25 AM (#741632 - in reply to #697871)
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amazing guys keep them coming.
Mark Hoerich
Posted 11/25/2014 12:37 PM (#741637 - in reply to #741630)
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esoxaddict - 11/25/2014 11:13 AM

Makes you wonder about all the supposed 40# muskies you see pictures of, doesn't it?



Absolutely right. Awesome fish. Great pics.
northern
Posted 11/29/2014 4:11 AM (#742040 - in reply to #697871)
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[IMG]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/bart1972/IMG_2265.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/bart1972/IMG_2263.jpg[/IMG]

50" Dutch Pike, my personal best caught casting 28 okt 2012 on a pike swimbait on one of our rivers. When this goes into spawn at its top weight it schould stay just under 50 pounds. But end of oktober it schould reach 42 maybee..

see weight diagram (river spawn weights) at http://www.dutchanglers.nl/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Rivier_paai.j...

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Jeremy
Posted 11/29/2014 8:20 AM (#742051 - in reply to #697871)
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Location: Minnesota.
What a beautiful fish Bart. Congrats!!

Jeremy.

Edited by Jeremy 11/29/2014 8:21 AM
northern
Posted 11/30/2014 1:08 PM (#742146 - in reply to #697871)
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Thanks Jeremy,

Lookin for even bigger every fishingtrip, but it's no Musky....far from..
That's why we fly to Canada when the misses allow.
irish piker
Posted 12/1/2014 3:25 PM (#742288 - in reply to #697871)
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Swedish fish.I don't know the weight.It's big though.

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woodieb8
Posted 12/1/2014 6:22 PM (#742315 - in reply to #697871)
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all I can say is wowzers gents
esoxaddict
Posted 12/1/2014 6:50 PM (#742320 - in reply to #697871)
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I'm sure I've said this before. But those pike are tremendous! If we poke of that caliber around here, I'd have a hard time fishing for anything else.
tolle141
Posted 12/1/2014 7:06 PM (#742321 - in reply to #700711)
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Muskieanglerdug - 3/19/2014 8:08 PM

Couple pics of a nice Lk Superior Northern Pike


Holy crap. Which part of superior? What's the story there?
rodbender
Posted 12/1/2014 7:14 PM (#742325 - in reply to #742321)
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Is it just me or are those giant euro pike more Squishy looking? are they softer bodied than a musky? like a channel cat?

nice nonetheless!
irish piker
Posted 12/2/2014 6:56 AM (#742380 - in reply to #697871)
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I don't know what it is,musky seem to carry the weight better and big pike look like slobs.Maybe they're just less athletic than the musky and pile on the pounds around the belly like couch potatoes.Slower metabolism maybe? More spawn compared to musky?

Edited by irish piker 12/2/2014 7:06 AM
Brozz88
Posted 12/2/2014 7:49 AM (#742384 - in reply to #742380)
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I think that's what it is,muskies follow stuff and chase it without committal.Wasting energy and burning calories, thus losing weight.I think pike just eat it and don't mess around wasting there energy so they get fat and stay fat.lol maybe.
achotrod
Posted 12/2/2014 4:23 PM (#742453 - in reply to #697871)
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I dont know what it is but they all look like super tankers. If the pike fishing was like that here I would prob fish for them more then skis.
northern
Posted 12/5/2014 4:30 AM (#742772 - in reply to #697871)
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Musky is different than pike in body mass and body shape.
Pike are not as wide at the same length, and pike are tend to be more flexible.
River pike wich cope with current all their live are more sturdy too then the stillwater brethern.
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