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Message Subject: How do you define a cold front?
Nomadmusky
Posted 2/28/2018 8:42 PM (#894484)
Subject: How do you define a cold front?




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I've been fishing for a long time and this winter I realized that I can't really define a cold front.

I paid attention to the shows and seminars this winter and I often think cold fronts and post frontal conditions get used hand in hand.

So my questions are: 1. What's a cold front?

2. Is it different or how is it different than a post frontal condition?

Nomad
sworrall
Posted 2/28/2018 11:04 PM (#894509 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
From a steady or falling barometer to a rising barometer. Winds here switch from S, SW, SE, E or NE to W or NW. High pressure replaces low pressure. Skies generally clear off.
Junkman
Posted 3/1/2018 6:53 AM (#894525 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?




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Based on my personal experience:
WARM FRONT: Gee, thanks for asking, that’s so sweet of you to call. I can’t go to the dance because my dad’s having surgery that day.
COLD FRONT: No, and don’t ever call me again you fat loser.
chasintails
Posted 3/1/2018 8:14 AM (#894535 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?




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I don't mind a cold front as I think the fish will still have some activity during it, the post cold frontal conditions are the ones that are tough.
supertrollr
Posted 3/1/2018 8:14 AM (#894536 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?


cold front have nothing to do with wind direction,it's just a cooler mass of air.period
Kirby Budrow
Posted 3/1/2018 9:46 AM (#894553 - in reply to #894536)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?





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Location: Chisholm, MN
supertrollr - 3/1/2018 8:14 AM

cold front have nothing to do with wind direction,it's just a cooler mass of air.period


That's not true. What Steve said is correct for the upper midwest.
supertrollr
Posted 3/1/2018 10:26 AM (#894561 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?


did you read a lil but on the subject?i guess not, and the place have noting to do ,you can be in Antarctica it's the same thing everywhere! correct for upper midwest lol that's a good one

A cold front is the leading edge of a cooler mass of air, replacing at ground level a warmer mass of air, which lies within a fairly sharp surface trough of low pressure. It forms in the wake of an extratropical cyclone, at the leading edge of its cold air advection pattern, which is also known as the cyclone's dry conveyor belt circulation. Temperature changes across the boundary can exceed 30 °C (54 °F).[1] When enough moisture is present, rain can occur along the boundary. If there is significant instability along the boundary, a narrow line of thunderstorms can form along the frontal zone. If instability is less, a broad shield of rain can move in behind the front, which increases the temperature difference across the boundary. Cold fronts are stronger in the fall and spring transition seasons and weakest during the summer. When a cold front catches up with the preceding warm front, the portion of the boundary that does so is then known as an occluded front.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_front
miket55
Posted 3/1/2018 11:19 AM (#894577 - in reply to #894536)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?




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Location: E. Tenn
supertrollr - 3/1/2018 9:14 AM

cold front have nothing to do with wind direction,it's just a cooler mass of air.period


You might look at the Wikipedia link you posted.. the table describes the clockwise shift in the winds from generally a southerly direction,to a more N-NW direction.


Edited by miket55 3/1/2018 11:23 AM
NPike
Posted 3/1/2018 11:47 AM (#894586 - in reply to #894509)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?




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sworrall - 3/1/2018 12:04 AM

From a steady or falling barometer to a rising barometer. Winds here switch from S, SW, SE, E or NE to W or NW. High pressure replaces low pressure. Skies generally clear off.

Spot on
happy hooker
Posted 3/1/2018 2:16 PM (#894612 - in reply to #894586)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?




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1 mistakenly walking into a dike bar.
2 any long planed expensive trip that I'm involved in "ask my friends"
3 seriously the best cold front bait made is a jerko,,with slow paused taps
esoxaddict
Posted 3/1/2018 2:19 PM (#894613 - in reply to #894612)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?





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Most of what we consider "cold front conditions" is what's happened after the cold front has moved through.

If you're casting into the wind and watching the sun come up at the same time, it's probably going to be a slow morning.

Also a good bet that the only fish you see that day will be the ones you catch, and it will probably be later in the day.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 3/1/2018 3:07 PM (#894625 - in reply to #894561)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?





Posts: 2275


Location: Chisholm, MN
supertrollr - 3/1/2018 10:26 AM

did you read a lil but on the subject?i guess not, and the place have noting to do ,you can be in Antarctica it's the same thing everywhere! correct for upper midwest lol that's a good one

A cold front is the leading edge of a cooler mass of air, replacing at ground level a warmer mass of air, which lies within a fairly sharp surface trough of low pressure. It forms in the wake of an extratropical cyclone, at the leading edge of its cold air advection pattern, which is also known as the cyclone's dry conveyor belt circulation. Temperature changes across the boundary can exceed 30 °C (54 °F).[1] When enough moisture is present, rain can occur along the boundary. If there is significant instability along the boundary, a narrow line of thunderstorms can form along the frontal zone. If instability is less, a broad shield of rain can move in behind the front, which increases the temperature difference across the boundary. Cold fronts are stronger in the fall and spring transition seasons and weakest during the summer. When a cold front catches up with the preceding warm front, the portion of the boundary that does so is then known as an occluded front.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_front


Alright then

Muskiemetal
Posted 3/1/2018 3:27 PM (#894630 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?





Posts: 676


Location: Wisconsin
A cold front is the boundary of two air masses, one made of a cooler air mass replacing a warmer one. Usually marked by decreasing temperatures but not always, air pressure change as front passes and those can be minor, and a wind shift. The wind shift is what is generally used to locate a front.
Nomadmusky
Posted 3/2/2018 12:09 PM (#894774 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: RE: How do you define a cold front?




Posts: 176


So now I guess my question is, do fisherman often confuse the two?

Cold front, post frontal conditions?

Nomad
Junkman
Posted 3/2/2018 12:39 PM (#894781 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?




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Whatever it is, I’d say it’s very likely to change the fishing. So, if you have been catching fish, prepare to be saddened. If you have been struggling, this might be better news. Tomorrow, here in SW Florida, highs will be barely 80 after weeks of nearly 90. Weather forecast here says that is a cold front. Go figure?
T3clay
Posted 3/2/2018 1:43 PM (#894795 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?





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The cold front doesn't shut down the fish, it's the metaphorical path of post frontal destruction left behind. A cold front is a weather change,( we like weather changes) before and during can be good. After not so much... Unless it's september
fishpoop
Posted 3/3/2018 7:15 AM (#894893 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?




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Location: Forest Lake, Mn.
"How do you define a cold front?" When my backside is facing the campfire.
Nomadmusky
Posted 3/3/2018 8:01 AM (#894897 - in reply to #894795)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?




Posts: 176


This is how I've always perceived it.

Thanks,
ESOX Maniac
Posted 3/4/2018 8:24 AM (#894957 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?





Posts: 2752


Location: Mauston, Wisconsin
LOL! Actually the waves drive the wind, trees too. Watch out for the ones that come from the east! If you hear thunder, it's close. Vewy, vewy close. Look east too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17ocaZb-bGg

Have fun!
Al
Sidejack
Posted 3/4/2018 11:14 AM (#894966 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?





Posts: 1080


Location: Aurora
Baits have more belly roll during a cold front.
Before or after?.. less belly roll.
Top H2O
Posted 3/6/2018 9:47 PM (#895261 - in reply to #894966)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?




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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
When your going across the Lake (65+ Mph) and the Cold air hits you in the Front/Face !
jonnysled
Posted 3/7/2018 6:30 AM (#895278 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
Cold Front = good excuse, but somebody is catching fish
VMS
Posted 3/8/2018 7:07 AM (#895476 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?





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Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Armistice Day, 1940...

https://www.weather.gov/dvn/armistice_day_blizzard
jchiggins
Posted 3/8/2018 11:19 AM (#895510 - in reply to #894484)
Subject: Re: How do you define a cold front?




Posts: 1759


Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn
Having to sleep on the couch.
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