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Iwrush
Posted 11/5/2017 1:47 PM (#883436)
Subject: Sledge




Posts: 77


Location: Southwest Pa
Looking to replace some hooks on my beat up sledges. Does anyone know the size and manufacturer of the hooks on the 9" sledge? Not looking to throw the action off As I've played with them extensively to tune them. Also- (here we go again I know) but what's everyone's take on T-ing the hooks on jerkbaits? I T-Ed the hooks on some jerkbaits and feel like my hookup percentage took a big hit. Any opinions? Thanks in advance dudes!
Zinox
Posted 11/5/2017 2:28 PM (#883438 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 1100


I allways T The hooks on hard baits, and im
Not going to stop anytime soon, Thats my take on it.
Pike Master
Posted 11/5/2017 4:09 PM (#883445 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 293


Location: Sakatchewan,Canada
T'ing the hooks drops hooking % without doubt, don't do it! Get some hook rash!!
pklingen
Posted 11/5/2017 6:27 PM (#883456 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 860


Location: NE Ohio
the old shutt 9" sledges used mustads.........3551 5/0 in the front, 35656BR 3/0 middle and back. the new sledgehammers 9" sledges use a much heavier hook but i don't own any so not sure of the hook sizes, it might say on the website.

i don't T my hooks and don't have a problem with hookups, and don't mind the hook rash. if i buy a bait with the belly hook T'd i leave it be.
Iwrush
Posted 11/5/2017 7:00 PM (#883462 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 77


Location: Southwest Pa
I have a feeling I'm done T-ing my hooks! I don't mind hook rash and have never been a believer in colors. So if the hooks wear all the paint off all of my baits at least they will be the same color. Right???
supertrollr
Posted 11/5/2017 7:11 PM (#883464 - in reply to #883462)
Subject: Re: Sledge


when that fashion start something like 15 years ago everyone was so happy to save their lures from hook rash but since couple of years i stop doing it ,just a quick look at what the treble look like once ted and it's obvious it can't be good for hookup % it's just physic.the points are way to close to each others,it's like the guy that have the choice to walk on a nail or on a nails carpet... i think mustad 3551 7/0 is what you looking for
Iwrush
Posted 11/5/2017 7:11 PM (#883465 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 77


Location: Southwest Pa
I have check their websites along with having a bud post the asking specs on hooks on Facebook. (I'm not on Facebook). I'm sure if I ordered a variety of hooks I could at least narrow it down but I figured I'd ask here before I went that route.
sledge51
Posted 11/6/2017 5:36 AM (#883482 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 319


Location: In the slop!
pklingen has the right information for what came on the originals. On the ones 'I' fish with I put 5/0 Eagle Claw 774s on the front two hooks and a 3/0 774 on the tail. Never hurt the action at all, better hooks, better hooking.
Zinox
Posted 11/6/2017 12:38 PM (#883533 - in reply to #883464)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 1100


supertrollr - 11/5/2017 7:11 PM

when that fashion start something like 15 years ago everyone was so happy to save their lures from hook rash but since couple of years i stop doing it ,just a quick look at what the treble look like once ted and it's obvious it can't be good for hookup % it's just physic.the points are way to close to each others,it's like the guy that have the choice to walk on a nail or on a nails carpet... i think mustad 3551 7/0 is what you looking for


Hey how do you compare T-ing the hooks to being able to walk en on carpet of nails vs one nail?

You still have the same amount of hookpoints to exert the pressure on, so the physics haven't changed. The nail carpet is possible to walk on because you apply the force on several nails. Eg. 20 nails instead of one, which decrease the force applied to each point to 1/20.(if you have flat feet)
I guess there could be a tiny difference if all 3 points where close together with the shank touching each other, as the deformation of the penetration point might be concentrated, but as long as there is just a couple of mm between the points this should not effect the force required to reach penetration.

This is not to bash anyone, i think this i really interesting and would also love to here everyone's experience. As i am truly confident that T-ing the hooks have increased my hookup ratio, mainly on Suicks, but also on crankbaits and gliders

Cheers
supertrollr
Posted 11/7/2017 8:50 AM (#883629 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge


if you think you land more fish with your setup,keep using it that way,period
Iwrush
Posted 11/7/2017 7:10 PM (#883690 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 77


Location: Southwest Pa
I'm loosing more fish with them being T-ed. This is especially true with this bait I mean they crush these things on the pause and ever since I T-ed them (due to a buds recommendation) they can shake em off easier I believe. Debate aside- I know there are 2 different size hooks on the 9" is 5/0-3/0 the size? Looking to go gamakatsu route with the upgrade. Also, had a bud just nail a big girl on a dadson so it's probably the skulls guys I'm thinking.....
supertrollr
Posted 11/8/2017 2:30 PM (#883758 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge


st-36bc 3/0 by owner is the best of all.if there is no weight factor it can replace mustad 3551 7/0 max
RLSea
Posted 11/8/2017 8:59 PM (#883801 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 479


Location: Northern Illinois
^^^^^^^^Great hook!
Zinox
Posted 11/8/2017 11:17 PM (#883813 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 1100


Ohh Yes The St36 is Awesome, wish they would make a larger version,
Iwrush
Posted 11/9/2017 6:18 PM (#883930 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge




Posts: 77


Location: Southwest Pa
Better than the gamakatsu 4x trebles? Really?
supertrollr
Posted 11/12/2017 11:07 AM (#884106 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge


really
supertrollr
Posted 11/12/2017 5:13 PM (#884124 - in reply to #883436)
Subject: Re: Sledge


i would also add not even in the same league
lifeisfun
Posted 11/13/2017 6:18 AM (#884151 - in reply to #883445)
Subject: Re: Sledge





Location: Ontario
Pike Master - 11/5/2017 5:09 PM

T'ing the hooks drops hooking % without doubt, don't do it! Get some hook rash!!


I don't see any difference
So yes, I doubt
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