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Message Subject: Sealing
tkuntz
Posted 9/30/2017 6:37 AM (#879731)
Subject: Sealing




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Location: Waukee, IA
I've been sealing my baits with epoxy with good results, but I want something a little harder than epoxy. I've heard using superglue (cyanoacrylate) penetrates the wood much better and dries hard (especially if baking soda is used as an accelerant). Cyanoacrylate is not great when exposed to water so I was thinking of using CA for the actual sealing then coating with epoxy to protect against water. Anybody doing this? I just want a little more durable end product than what I'm getting with just epoxy.
supertrollr
Posted 9/30/2017 6:48 AM (#879732 - in reply to #879731)
Subject: Re: Sealing


did you mix you epoxy with some denature alcohol? or just pure epoxy?
mnmusky
Posted 9/30/2017 8:47 AM (#879739 - in reply to #879731)
Subject: RE: Sealing




I use CAB (cellulose acetate butyrate) dissolved in acetone. I use it in 3 steps. very thin, medium and very thick. thin to penetrate and the thick gives it a hard shell.
pic is final coating that dries fast. just happens to be red but comes in clear and other colors.


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Gringo Loco
Posted 9/30/2017 12:25 PM (#879753 - in reply to #879739)
Subject: RE: Sealing




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Location: Moses Lake, WA
What kind of dilution ratios of acetone/CAB are you using in your thin, medium, and thick sealing solutions? I'd like to give this a try, especially for balsa lures which can stand some strength as well as sealing.
Gringo Loco
mnmusky
Posted 10/1/2017 9:01 AM (#879786 - in reply to #879753)
Subject: Re: Sealing




Gary, the thin is like water and the thick is like tomato soup. medium is in between. I have no set ratio, I go by consistency . As it gets used, I add pellets and acetone to keep the jugs full.
tkuntz
Posted 10/2/2017 12:15 PM (#879885 - in reply to #879732)
Subject: Re: Sealing




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Location: Waukee, IA
supertrollr - 9/30/2017 6:48 AM

did you mix you epoxy with some denature alcohol? or just pure epoxy?


I mixed with denatured alcohol for the initial sealing coat, but used straight epoxy for the second and third coats. Epoxy just seems too soft by itself.

Edited by tkuntz 10/2/2017 12:17 PM
supertrollr
Posted 10/3/2017 12:38 AM (#879927 - in reply to #879731)
Subject: Re: Sealing


at what %?
tkuntz
Posted 10/3/2017 6:51 AM (#879929 - in reply to #879731)
Subject: Re: Sealing




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Location: Waukee, IA
Low percentage denatured alcohol (about 10% I'm guessing) just to thin it out slightly
supertrollr
Posted 10/9/2017 8:14 AM (#880639 - in reply to #879731)
Subject: Re: Sealing


lots of guys are playing like you without trouble.i have no idea what's wrong
tkuntz
Posted 10/9/2017 2:35 PM (#880704 - in reply to #879731)
Subject: Re: Sealing




Posts: 815


Location: Waukee, IA
I'm not having any trouble, per se. I just want a harder product
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