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Message Subject: Best beginner all around rod
kylehanson26
Posted 9/14/2017 1:01 AM (#877881)
Subject: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 8


I am looking to get an affordable all around musky rod. I am just getting into musky fishing and will be using the same rod/reel for sturgeon also. I like the abu garcia veritas toro 8ft heavy. the only problem is the lure rating if from 4-10 ounces. I want to be able to throw 2 oz lures but still be able to throw a 6 oz lure or at least a 5 oz lure every once in a while. the veritas also comes in a mh 7'9" with a lure rating of 1-4 oz. My question is will one of these rods work for both applications? Will one rod work better as an overall better rod? Or should i look into something like the st. croix triumph or mojo musky that is 7'6" h with a lure rating of 2-6? ive read that 7'6" is cutting it close to being to short. Any info helps.

Thank you,
Kyle
Marley420
Posted 9/14/2017 6:15 AM (#877886 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: RE: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 81


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
I would go with Tackle Industries XH. Lure rating 2-8 oz. Great rod at a great price. Can't beat the costumer service James provides. My 2 cents.
14ledo81
Posted 9/14/2017 6:20 AM (#877887 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 4269


Location: Ashland WI
You can't go wrong with a tackle industries rod. That will throw baits even lighter than 2 oz and up to 8 (or a bit more).
curleytail
Posted 9/14/2017 6:42 AM (#877892 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
I 3rd the 9' Tackle Industries xh. Will throw a pretty wide range of baits and is pretty light weight for the price. A little slower action than some other rods but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Hard to beat for the price.
btfish
Posted 9/14/2017 6:50 AM (#877894 - in reply to #877887)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 410


Location: With my son on the water
X4 on a TI rod, can't say enough good about the (cost, quality, performance, and customer service).

IMO it's hard to have 1 all purpose rod and it is different for each user but probably doable. Plus tall guys like long rods, others may not.

If I were you I would EMAIL James at TI and have a dialog of what/when you want to do. He will certainly set you up well and stand behind it.
kylehanson26
Posted 9/14/2017 8:33 AM (#877905 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 8


have any of you used or know about the fenwick elite tech preditor rod they have a heavy 8' 2-8 oz lure rating and are on sale. I will also have to look into the TI rods.
BNelson
Posted 9/14/2017 8:39 AM (#877906 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Location: Contrarian Island
buddy of mine picked up one of these cabelas 9 footers on sale for $120, (not on sale right now) He likes it.. I had one in my hands at the store and for $120 it sure felt like a decent rod for the $... just another option. TI rods are nice too.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/CABELAS-PREDATOR-MUSKY-CASTING-RODS/...

lifetime guarantee on the rod too.
tackleaddict
Posted 9/14/2017 8:53 AM (#877908 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 431


I have the rod BNelson referenced. Its a nice rod, does good with magdawgs and medussas. Threw a mini medusa with it and it casted it well. Love my TI-XH a lot and would choose it if I could only have one.
dirtybird
Posted 9/14/2017 8:53 AM (#877909 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 211


Location: Wisconsin
Chaos tackle makes some pretty nice rods that are very reasonable. I just got the shock and awe and love it.
anderj85
Posted 9/14/2017 9:52 AM (#877917 - in reply to #877905)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 273


Location: US
kylehanson26 - 9/14/2017 8:33 AM

have any of you used or know about the fenwick elite tech preditor rod they have a heavy 8' 2-8 oz lure rating and are on sale. I will also have to look into the TI rods.



I have one of these. They are nice rods. It will handle mag dawgs/regular dussas, but it's a little soft for that if you are going to be throwing them a lot. If you are only going to have 1 rod I would look at the elite tech xh. It would handle mags dawgs/reg dussas much better. I do like the fenwick rods, they are nice and light and comfortable.

I also have a abu beast fantasista xh and use it for almost everything. The only thing i don't like about that is its a little heavy.
sworrall
Posted 9/14/2017 10:32 AM (#877922 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 32761


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
TI or Tooth Tamer. Both great choices for a good price.
jvlast15
Posted 9/14/2017 10:40 AM (#877925 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 297


I have the Fenwick Predator rods that you asked about. Not sure I would trade that rod for anything. Cant imagine one performing better than it does.
Jeremy
Posted 9/14/2017 2:45 PM (#877945 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 1126


Location: Minnesota.
Wish they still made the Falcon rods.
I have a few Thorne Bros. rods that are superb but those Falcon rods...for $100 were amazing!
Flambeauski
Posted 9/14/2017 3:27 PM (#877954 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 4343


Location: Smith Creek
Typically a higher rated rod (2-6, 2-8 oz, for example) will cast below the rating (<2) better than a lower rated rod (1-4oz) will cast above the rating (>4).

So go with the higher rated.
kylehanson26
Posted 9/14/2017 3:37 PM (#877956 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 8


Not really sure if i want to go over 8 ft. The only reason im looking for a new rod is cause my brand new 8ft that still had tags on it got shoved into a short box truck bed and snapped in half. Ive never heard anything bad about fenwick so thats why im kind of leaning towards that rod, but had musky innovations brought up to me which is also right in my lure area i want to be in. I want to be able to throw my 2oz blades but yet switch to a rubber bait if i so choose. Im not looking to get pounders, just some bull dawgs and whatever else is out there. Do any of you have experience or know anything about the musky innovation rods?
anderj85
Posted 9/14/2017 4:09 PM (#877962 - in reply to #877956)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 273


Location: US
I use my 6-16oz XH for doubles 8s all the time. I think you'd be better to err on the high side of what you plan on using it for.
Musky_Mo16
Posted 9/14/2017 4:15 PM (#877963 - in reply to #877962)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 735


Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
Don't go below 8'6". I got 8'9" but I wish I went 9'+. It might take a few casts to get used to but it is very beneficial. Don't worry about the lire weight really. If it says 4-8 oz, you can easily throw lures down to one ounce. You shouldn't have any problem throwing lures down to an ounce unless you get into the xxh rods. You probably don't want that as a first anyway.
Barphbag
Posted 9/14/2017 4:28 PM (#877970 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 50


Location: Southern Indiana
You may not think you want to go over 8 ft but you'll probably be happier with it if you do. TI XH at least 9 ft will throw about anything. Longer casts and bigger figure 8 ability. 9'6" telescopes down to 8 ft if storage/transport is an issue.
NathanH
Posted 9/14/2017 4:37 PM (#877972 - in reply to #877970)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 859


Location: MN
Gosh I'd buy an 8'6" heavy st Croix Premier.
kylehanson26
Posted 9/14/2017 6:48 PM (#877989 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 8


Ive got alot of great recomendations on here. have looked into a few of the suggested but have settled on either the veritas 2.0 toro 8' heavy rated at 4-10 oz lure or the fenwick 8' heavy rated for 2-8 oz lures. my question out of the 2, which would be the better choice to go with? Would the veritas be to heavy for lighter bucktails? Would the fenwick be to light for some common lures?
anderj85
Posted 9/14/2017 6:52 PM (#877991 - in reply to #877989)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 273


Location: US
Of those 2 id pick the Fenwick just because i think split grips are uncomfortable. They dig into your side/rib cage especially when ripping dawgs, etc.
sworrall
Posted 9/14/2017 7:34 PM (#877995 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 32761


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
'veritas 2.0 toro 8' heavy rated at 4-10 oz lure or the fenwick 8' heavy rated for 2-8 oz lures'

I have fished both and still have one of them. Both are very good rods and will treat you well. It comes down to the palming grip and split grip, and whether you like those features.The rods feel quite different from one another and the actions are not the same at all, so I'd put both in your hand see which feels best to you.
T3clay
Posted 9/14/2017 7:41 PM (#877997 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 770


Musky innovations bulldawg rods predator series are $100. Best rod in my boat. Got a TI rod and returned it after an hour of fishing, the slower action drived me crazy. I would very strongly suggest you get a 9'rod, and find a better way to transport it. Either way i would get a bulldawg rod, whichever one fits your desirez
kylehanson26
Posted 9/14/2017 8:11 PM (#878003 - in reply to #877995)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




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sworrall - 9/14/2017 7:34 PM

'veritas 2.0 toro 8' heavy rated at 4-10 oz lure or the fenwick 8' heavy rated for 2-8 oz lures'

I have fished both and still have one of them. Both are very good rods and will treat you well. It comes down to the palming grip and split grip, and whether you like those features.The rods feel quite different from one another and the actions are not the same at all, so I'd put both in your hand see which feels best to you.



Would you be able to explain how each was like a little bit. I don't have a way to get the Fenwick in my hand cause our gander closed in my town and I never fished the veritas before it broke. Never even got a reel on it. We're you able to throw 8oz or a little heavier well with the Fenwick? How well did the veritas deal with lighter lures?
sworrall
Posted 9/14/2017 8:16 PM (#878004 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 32761


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The Fenwick was obviously lighter action, but I'm sure 8 ounces would not be a big issue. The Abu throws lighter lures fine and in my opinion is a slightly faster action.
kylehanson26
Posted 9/14/2017 8:32 PM (#878006 - in reply to #878004)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




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sworrall - 9/14/2017 8:16 PM

The Fenwick was obviously lighter action, but I'm sure 8 ounces would not be a big issue. The Abu throws lighter lures fine and in my opinion is a slightly faster action.


So would you say the abu is the better all around rod out of the 2? Or the Fenwick
Thank you for the help
sworrall
Posted 9/14/2017 8:39 PM (#878008 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 32761


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Define 'better'. I personally prefer the Abu.
kylehanson26
Posted 9/14/2017 8:44 PM (#878010 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




Posts: 8


Better action, better castabilitt, easier to work lures. Is the abu to heavy for bucktails. Was the stiffer rod better overall than the light fenwick?
sworrall
Posted 9/14/2017 9:01 PM (#878012 - in reply to #878010)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod





Posts: 32761


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Bucktails and the Abu are fine, no issues. Biggest difference is the handle and grip. Both cast lighter to the max weight lures fine. I personally liked the Abu better.
kylehanson26
Posted 9/15/2017 6:54 PM (#878102 - in reply to #877881)
Subject: Re: Best beginner all around rod




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Well I combines all of the feed back. Ended up finding a 8'6" Fenwick extra heavy at a store near me. Held it and like the feel better then the abu, and the EH of the Fenwick felt just like the H abu. Can't wait to get out and try this rod out. Thank you everyone for the advice
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