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Location: Germantown, WI | Question for those who have thrown this bait.... is there less drag pull than a standard buck tail? I would think so based on design but thought I would check with those that have used it. Thanks |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | I thought the 7 pulled harder than a double showgirl by a lot. The 9 felt about like a cowgirl to me. I do not have any 11's to compare to traditional bucktails. |
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| They pull harder to me
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | I don't think they are supposed to be easier to pull, they are made to be easier to make spin.I'll see though, I don't have any yet but I ordered some and they should be here soon. |
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Location: Germantown, WI | I have one on the way finally myself, sounds like a bit more drag then.
thanks for the replies guys. |
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Location: On the water | They pull a little bit more. Size 9 is more like size 10 DCG |
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| I would say that they are fairly accurate in the way they are sized. However in comparing them side by side i could see why people say they pull harder. With the one piece fixed blade they have constant pull rather than the thump of regular double bladed bucktails. |
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| I have thrown the 9 and 11. They pull hard, especially for such a small bait. The 9 pulled like a double 10 I thought, and the 11 pulled even harder.
I also noticed they don't have the same "lift" as a regular bucktail. They dive deep, it was difficult to keep it up in the 1st few feet of the water column. I had to have my rod tip way up and reel very fast.
I'll test out more this summer I'm sure. |
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Location: Aurora | Been throwin the ones below since the early 80's and i think they pull fairly easy.
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | I went to the local pond today and tossed around the #7 I got and I can honestly say that it pulls harder than I expected. Can't wait to get some #11 and see how they work. |
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| Sidejack - 5/2/2017 4:56 PM
Been throwin the ones below since the early 80's and i think they pull fairly easy.
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Location: On the water | Sidejack - 5/2/2017 11:56 PM
Been throwin the ones below since the early 80's and i think they pull fairly easy.
Cool looking lures. What maker is that? |
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Location: Pewaukee, WI | I'm thinking old pfluger baits. |
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Location: New Jersey | I guess get your order in now for the 2018 double revolution based on the old pflugers |
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Location: MN | Sidejack - 5/2/2017 4:56 PM
Been throwin the ones below since the early 80's and i think they pull fairly easy.
Yours appear to be bent downward quite a bit more, that could be why they are easier. I'm wondering how he thinks he can get a patent (I thought I read where he said he has a patent pending on the blade) with this obvious prior art. |
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Location: MN | I don't see how this will be a patentable idea and getting one generally takes a long time, and cost a decent amount of money. I suspect that is more of a vague deterrent, to scare off others. But who knows.... |
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Location: Detroit River | NathanH - 5/3/2017 3:21 PMI don't see how this will be a patentable idea and getting one generally takes a long time, and cost a decent amount of money. I suspect that is more of a vague deterrent, to scare off others. But who knows.... Exactly! |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Back to the kramers, I bought some of the marabou ones and noticed that it looked like there was just a peice of shrink tubing over the part where the feathers end (where epoxy would normally be), I don't know the correct terminology for that part of the bucktail. I was about to take the shrink tubing off to see if there is epoxy under there but I didn't want to destroy my 30$ bucktail. I just felt it and it didn't feel hard like there was epoxy there. (Someone please tell me I'm wrong) |
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Location: mercer wi | It's probably tied but seen a guys at wausau show he had shrink tube on the ties to help protect the threading. Can remember his name or his taila name. I think that's just a awesome idea. |
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Location: mercer wi | I have a couple of the bottom double blade ones in my great grandpa's tackle box. Lots of really cool stuff in there.
I have a size 7 & 9 kramers. Haven't used them yet but they LOOK COOL. I think that's one of the selling points. I'll use them but doubt they will replace my trusted bucktails. But who knows |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | I still think the epoxy is tuffer but I'll give the shrink tubing a shot. And I don't think that he kramers are going to replace anything, they are just going to be another tool in the toolbox. However, they will nicely complement traditional bucktails. |
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Location: MN | The shrink tube has an epoxy in it. It's military grade stuff it's from what I heard indestructible. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | When I tie my own marabou, I use clear fingernail polish, the add shrink tubing over it to make a nice smooth transition rather than having the threads exposed. I think it's just an easier way to make it look better and add a little protection. I'm guessing that's what they did. Kramer doesn't make junk. I wouldn't worry about it. If you want, I'll take those bucktails and test them out for you |
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Location: Madison, WI | the biggest thing that guys are going to have problems with is that increasing speed does not increase lift on these. because of this, if you want to keep them running high you need to synchronize your cast very well and keep rod tip up at first. Once it is running high it is easy to keep them running high and this is true for any depth you want the bait to run at. I was able to keep it bulging at very slow speeds and also scream them in without having to bury the rod tip and fight it from blowing out. IMO it is an incredibly versatile blade as depth and speed are independent variables and thus can be controlled separately. it also takes a lot to make them stop spinning which means more presentation options. My only complaint is that the price of the bait warrants a better tie than 3 thread wraps and no head cement. |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | johnsonaaro2 - 5/4/2017 10:47 AM
the biggest thing that guys are going to have problems with is that increasing speed does not increase lift on these. because of this, if you want to keep them running high you need to synchronize your cast very well and keep rod tip up at first. Once it is running high it is easy to keep them running high and this is true for any depth you want the bait to run at. I was able to keep it bulging at very slow speeds and also scream them in without having to bury the rod tip and fight it from blowing out. IMO it is an incredibly versatile blade as depth and speed are independent variables and thus can be controlled separately. it also takes a lot to make them stop spinning which means more presentation options. My only complaint is that the price of the bait warrants a better tie than 3 thread wraps and no head cement.
I noticed that. That might make these baits good for trolling. |
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| Bottom line......They catch a lot of fish for me so far and some nice ones too! |
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Location: North Central IL USA | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeEkZ5gKeIA&t=339s |
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