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past.the.cast.mike

Posted 2/25/2017 8:21 AM (#851031)
Subject: Hook hanger wire wraps

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I'm just starting out making my hook hangers and it's been a pain trying to bend the loops and wraps on small prices of wire. Using 0.051" but I also have 0.060". Any tips? Ive just been using vise grips and needle nose pliers.

woodieb8

Posted 2/25/2017 5:11 PM (#851074 - in reply to #851031)
Subject: Re: Hook hanger wire wraps

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hagens bender if your doing lots.

patcampbell

Posted 2/26/2017 6:50 PM (#851200 - in reply to #851074)
Subject: Re: Hook hanger wire wraps

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Location: West Bend WI

I made tools to wrap leader wire and bucktail wire. If you're handy with tools easy to do.
Been making 125# wire single strand jerk bait and buck leaders w/welded rings.
Pics show the tools I made to shape the 0.024” wire. Slot in the twist wrench is ~0.032 (hacksaw blade w/kerf ground down a bit), #4 FH screw to engage the wire. Tool with the pins (0.125 dia & 0.072” dia, spaced 0.030” apart) is used to form loop in wire prior to twist. Use shank from number drills if you like. Drill the mating hole, cut the drill shank to the length you need.
Real easy to make a nice twist, and finish loop (eye) w/round jaw wire pliers to bend loop into alignment with wire shaft. I use the same type tooling, only larger for the 0.052(?) bucktail wire shafts I make. I use two 0.125” dia dowel pins spaced 0.065” apart for making bucktail shafts.

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Pat

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past.the.cast.mike

Posted 2/26/2017 8:17 PM (#851213 - in reply to #851031)
Subject: Re: Hook hanger wire wraps

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Looks handy, I'll have to make one up

PamuskEhunt

Posted 2/27/2017 8:26 AM (#851249 - in reply to #851031)
Subject: RE: Hook hanger wire wraps

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These will save your hands. I do all of my wire wraps with these and vice grips, either .063 or .071.

https://www.amazon.com/Knipex-2202160-Round-Pliers-Comfort/dp/B003RW...

past.the.cast.mike

Posted 2/27/2017 8:43 AM (#851250 - in reply to #851249)
Subject: RE: Hook hanger wire wraps

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PamuskEhunt - 2/27/2017 9:26 AM

These will save your hands. I do all of my wire wraps with these and vice grips, either .063 or .071.

https://www.amazon.com/Knipex-2202160-Round-Pliers-Comfort/dp/B003RW...

Hmm those look interesting. How do those benifit regular needle nose plies? would you mind explaining the process of your wraps. My hook hanger wraps are for large crankbaits

Zinox

Posted 2/27/2017 11:41 AM (#851268 - in reply to #851031)
Subject: Re: Hook hanger wire wraps

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I made one like this, super super easy, and it possible to make it A LOT prettier than in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJwF8OXVxI

past.the.cast.mike

Posted 2/27/2017 12:04 PM (#851270 - in reply to #851268)
Subject: Re: Hook hanger wire wraps

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Zinox - 2/27/2017 12:41 PM

I made one like this, super super easy, and it possible to make it A LOT prettier than in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJwF8OXVxI

Looks easy to use but I don't think that would work on a tail wrap since the body would be in the way from getting the tool on the wire

castmaster

Posted 3/6/2017 12:17 PM (#852367 - in reply to #851031)
Subject: Re: Hook hanger wire wraps

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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033

Another option is to bend a "paperclip" style hanger. Just as strong IMO and much faster/easier to form.

past.the.cast.mike

Posted 3/14/2017 7:35 AM (#853305 - in reply to #852367)
Subject: Re: Hook hanger wire wraps

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castmaster - 3/6/2017 1:17 PM

Another option is to bend a "paperclip" style hanger. Just as strong IMO and much faster/easier to form.

So your saying no wire wraps at all? Just a hook at each end?

castmaster

Posted 3/14/2017 9:42 AM (#853319 - in reply to #853305)
Subject: Re: Hook hanger wire wraps

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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033

past.the.cast.mike - 3/14/2017 7:35 AM

castmaster - 3/6/2017 1:17 PM

Another option is to bend a "paperclip" style hanger. Just as strong IMO and much faster/easier to form.

So your saying no wire wraps at all? Just a hook at each end?

I will see if I can get a pic up tonight or tomorrow. But yes, no wraps. Basically think of a paperclip that's bent to tbe "inner loop" is perpendicular to the outer. The hanger goes into the hole for belly hook, the main shaft goes through one "loop" and the perpendicular loop protrudes slightly out the bottom of the bait.

PamuskEhunt

Posted 3/15/2017 9:34 AM (#853439 - in reply to #851031)
Subject: RE: Hook hanger wire wraps

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This thread should be pretty helpful, think this is what you're looking for...

http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=48...

Zinox

Posted 3/16/2017 3:19 AM (#853551 - in reply to #851270)
Subject: Re: Hook hanger wire wraps

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past.the.cast.mike - 2/27/2017 12:04 PM

Zinox - 2/27/2017 12:41 PM

I made one like this, super super easy, and it possible to make it A LOT prettier than in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJwF8OXVxI

Looks easy to use but I don't think that would work on a tail wrap since the body would be in the way from getting the tool on the wire

That is true sir

past.the.cast.mike

Posted 3/16/2017 8:09 AM (#853563 - in reply to #853439)
Subject: RE: Hook hanger wire wraps

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PamuskEhunt - 3/15/2017 10:34 AM

This thread should be pretty helpful, think this is what you're looking for...

http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=48...

Lots of info on that thread! Thanks

past.the.cast.mike

Posted 3/16/2017 8:11 AM (#853564 - in reply to #853319)
Subject: Re: Hook hanger wire wraps

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castmaster - 3/14/2017 10:42 AM

past.the.cast.mike - 3/14/2017 7:35 AM

castmaster - 3/6/2017 1:17 PM

Another option is to bend a "paperclip" style hanger. Just as strong IMO and much faster/easier to form.

So your saying no wire wraps at all? Just a hook at each end?

Okay, sounds fairly simple, a picture would be great to see

castmaster

Posted 3/23/2017 9:21 PM (#854705 - in reply to #851031)
Subject: RE: Hook hanger wire wraps

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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033

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castmaster

Posted 3/23/2017 9:32 PM (#854708 - in reply to #851031)
Subject: RE: Hook hanger wire wraps

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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033

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castmaster

Posted 3/23/2017 9:34 PM (#854710 - in reply to #851031)
Subject: RE: Hook hanger wire wraps

Posts: 910

Location: Hastings, mn, 55033

Sorry for the delay in getting pics up. Not sure how well the pics will even work but hopefully you will get the idea. Basically two bends, made perpendicular to each other. Can be made with whatever size wire you want.

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