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Location: Elroy, Wisconsin |
so it goes on, no 60 incher this year. Where will one come from, I don't know.
How bout Georgian Bay
Seul St. Lawrence, St. Clair,
LOTW, Green Bay. Cass,
St. Louis, Erie,
I guess it would be Seul, or Georgian Bay. Hard to find a place to stay close to best musky areas on Seul. For the quality and lack of pressure lots of forage, tons of habitat, yep Seul.
Give me your best shot.
Mudpuppy
seul for me even |
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Location: Otsego, MN | Lots of choices...some day it will happen |
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Location: North St. Paul, MN | I saw one of those "special" fish just up from chamberlain narrows back in 2005. Lac Seul, northeast end...that's the spot, IMO |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Well considering we are not done on the st Lawrence yet, keep your ears open for a 40 acre shoal fish.. |
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Location: Madison, WI | Rowan Lake, Nestor Falls, Ontario (That's my best guess) |
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Location: oswego, il | Tiger Cat Flowage, where the true beasts live. |
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| At least one does unless the winter is mean |
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| I'm close to closing on a little cottage on Green Bay, Door County side. So I'm crossing my fingers that I'll get my 50 out of there shortly. 60? That's a tough one to swallow, but....
I talked to a highly respected musky guy up there...he swears that he's had a couple of 60's hooked and beaten at the boat, but all have gotten off before he could net them....as he was solo. This guy has caught a lot of 54+inch fish in the Bay, so I'm not really doubting him when it comes to size. And even if he's wrong about the fish being 60, I'm pretty sure they were 56+. Different kind of fish in the bay. |
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| My oldest boy recently married a Maple Leaf whose family lives on Georgian Bay (on the water w/boat) and I've been invited. So, the rest of you can stop wondering about that place...just stay where you are, and I'll let you all know if there are any fish up there....Really--Scout's Honor! (And, Yes they had Boy Scouts when I was that age!) |
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| ToddM - 12/7/2016 6:05 AM
Tiger Cat Flowage, where the true beasts live.
I'm going to have to put my money on Shoepack Lake in Voyageurs National Park. |
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Location: Tomahawk,Wis | Marty you got kicked for eating the Brownies.... |
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| I would say if it's going to happen, it'll come from a Great Lakes system. St Lawrence, and Georgian Bay seem like the two most likely. Green Bay and Suel are those wild cards that could happen, maybe. Mille Lacs will see a 59.75 just cuz it's such a stubborn beast  |
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Location: oswego, il | tolle141 - 12/7/2016 8:33 PM
ToddM - 12/7/2016 6:05 AM
Tiger Cat Flowage, where the true beasts live.
I'm going to have to put my money on Shoepack Lake in Voyageurs National Park.
How much you got? My cat can kill your pack!  |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I'd like to think the Queen is swimming with Kings eating 10 pound Lakers maybe around the Ducks and enters the river after the season closes Dec 15, and is back in the big pond before the season reopens.
Edited by horsehunter 12/8/2016 6:16 AM
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | ToddM: You sell Mud-Callahan short! Shoepac, now there is a real sleeper...for a 35 incher!
Actually, although Georgian Bay gets mentioned frequently, the odds of a 60-incher coming from there are very slim. The fish there get HEAVY for length, but very few ever see the upper 50's, let alone 60. World Record for weight a strong possibility, but not so much a long one. The St. Lawrence, another matter altogether...the River fish just plain get longer, but don't have the weight per inch (normally) that the Georgian Bay fish have...the exception is very late fall (like now) when they pork up with fat and eggs...stay tuned, because as noted, the season isn't over there yet (although some nasty cold weather is on the way).
Green Bay is definitely a wild card! Although it is getting a LOT of pressure. Lac Seul is still a possibility and getting far less pressure than it used to.
Horsehunter, maybe she'll come in early this fall and you can intercept her before it freezes or ends! |
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| Ottawa River, perhaps... |
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| My vote is Vermilion.. At least a dozen 57" fish the last 7 years. I'd guess there is more than 1 swimming that lake right now AND the lake gets plenty of "intelligent" pressure. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | Larry you have a pretty good database of all the legit 60s that have been caught, what are the top 5 bodies of water? Bodies of water that HAVE kicked them out to me have the highest chance at doing it again... fish in lakes like V just might not have the genetics or the life span to hit 60"... GB is definitely a wild card... |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | BNelson: I have already noted a few of the best picks above. The Ottawa River was mentioned and I wouldn't rule that out either, but the day of the really long fish from there seems to have peaked about 4 or 5 years ago. I know of five from there in the past 20 years that were 60's. My picks in order:
1. St. Lawrence River, Ontario
1a. St. Lawrence River, Quebec
2. French River (Georgian Bay)(based on Barefoot fish 1989)
3. Ottawa River, Ontario
3a. Ottawa River, Quebec
4. Lake Nip-issing, Ontario (based on MNR captures, not angler catches)
5. Green Bay, Wisconsin (based on known 59-incher caught there)
6. Lac Seul (based on known catches there in the 1980's & 1990's)
7. Bellaire Lake, (and the lakes of that chain) Michigan (home of the MDWRecord)
Potential or Sleepers:
1. Lake St. Clair, Michigan/Ontario
2. Lake Vermilion, Minnesota (based on known 59 & 60-inch fish there)
3. Leech Lake, Minnesota (lots of LONG muskies there over the years)
4. Wabigoon Lake, Ontario (I believe the potential is still there)
5. Eagle Lake, Ontario (been a long time for a true giant, but genetic potential there)
6. Lac Vieux desert, Wisconsin (based on long ago history)
7. Cass Lake, Minnesota (based on known 58.5 from there)
8. Upper & Lower Manitou, Ontario
While there are others that possibly have potential, these are the most likely in my mind (probably missed one or two that should be here, but you guys will "out" me on them if so).
Fun stuff!!
Edited by Larry Ramsell 12/8/2016 1:32 PM
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| tolle141 - 12/7/2016 8:33 PM
I'm going to have to put my money on Shoepack Lake in Voyageurs National Park.
Wrong strain in there. Lots of fish...none much bigger than 40-42 inches... Awesome times to be had back there though...well worth the trip... |
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Location: Contrarian Island | Thanks Larry! good stuff!
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| Larry there was rumor of a 60" fish found dead a couple of years on Mille Lacs , were you ever able to confirm? Wouldn't you put Mille Lacs ahead of Cass Lake based on fish from the last 10 years? ..I think the 58.5" you are referring to on Cass was awhile ago correct? |
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| BNelson - 12/8/2016 10:03 AM
Larry you have a pretty good database of all the legit 60s that have been caught, what are the top 5 bodies of water? Bodies of water that HAVE kicked them out to me have the highest chance at doing it again... fish in lakes like V just might not have the genetics or the life span to hit 60"... GB is definitely a wild card...
Yep GB high chance..why? recent upper 50's... all 60" fish must first be 57" fish...lakes that have been putting out numbers of upper 50" fish the last 5 years make the most sense to have a 60" eventually with C&R .. if Upper Manitou pumped out (1) 60" muskie in 1989 but hasn't done anything in the last 10 years, is it a good bet for a 60" or even a 55" for that matter? Brad you need to hit the Chip .. didn't Louis Spray get like (3) 60" fish there
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | IAJustin: Have to agree with you on Mille Lacs...what was I thinking (said you guys would catch me)? LOL Yes, there was a 60 found dead with a 5 pound carp stuck in its throat (bigger baits guys!). Definitely should be ahead of Cass on the list, in fact, it should be #8 on the top list.
Disagree with you re Georgian Bay...Yes, many upper 50's from there but mid upper 50's, I know of none over 57-inches from there recently. 58 from the Moon River in the 1960's. LOTS of real HEAVIES, but none had serious length.
Spray only had one BOGUS 60 out of the Chip...just sayin'. Longest legit one I know of out of the Chip was in the 1970's and was 57-inches...weighed 43-pounds.
Might toss Lake of the Woods on the potential list, but longest one I have record of was the 1932 world record at 59-inches long. |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | My "revised" list:
1. St. Lawrence River, Ontario
1a. St. Lawrence River, Quebec
2. French River (Georgian Bay)(based on Barefoot fish 1989)
3. Ottawa River, Ontario
3a. Ottawa River, Quebec
4. Lake Nip-issing, Ontario (based on MNR captures, not angler catches)
5. Green Bay, Wisconsin (based on known 59-incher caught there)
6. Lac Seul (based on known catches there in the 1980's & 1990's)
7. Bellaire Lake, (and the lakes of that chain) Michigan (home of the MDWRecord)
8. Mille Lacs Lake, Minnesota (60 found dead and Release WR caught there)
Potential or Sleepers:
1. Lake St. Clair, Michigan/Ontario
2. Lake Vermilion, Minnesota (based on known 59 & 60-inch fish there)
3. Leech Lake, Minnesota (lots of LONG muskies there over the years)
4. Wabigoon Lake, Ontario (I believe the potential is still there)
5. Eagle Lake, Ontario (been a long time for a true giant, but genetic potential there)
6. Lac Vieux desert, Wisconsin (based on long ago history)
7. Lake of the Woods, Ontario (59-inch WR in 1932)
8. Cass Lake, Minnesota (based on known 58.5 from there)
9. Upper & Lower Manitou, Ontario |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Larry you forgot Scugog
Is the guy that catches the biggest fish out of Shoepac accomplishment the same as the guy that catches the biggest fish from St Clair or any other lake .
Edited by horsehunter 12/8/2016 8:52 PM
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Location: Walker, MN | This is a great thread.
Larry- Without necessarily naming a specific lake, what about the odds of a lesser known and fertile lake, like from western MN or metro MN?
I feel like a smaller, stocked MN lake could kick out a giant soon. |
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| Just to Clarify my GB was Green Bay.. I think that was what Nelson was referring to as the wildcard..with 56 and 57" fish showing up recently most all being released who knows?
Edited by IAJustin 12/8/2016 8:47 PM
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| I smiled when I saw LVD on the list. Good times on that lake in the past. Good time. Never saw a giant out there like that, but you gotta love a lake that has a spot called "Valley of the Giants".
And yah, best thread in a very, very long time. |
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| I honestly believe there is a giant like that right here in PA..I believe there are couple lakes that could hold one and I believe the alleghany has one that size hiding somewhere
That video on the site where black guy is being interviewed by the white guy in the tackle store..based of the pics that fish looks like it could be legit huge none the less
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