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Location: Alex or Alek? | We did it guys! We didn't get all the lakes but we did get more than 0. Fairmount Chain and Gull Lake will be stocked starting this fall. Make sure to thank everyone invloved including all the state Reps that kept this from completely dying.
http://news.dnr.state.mn.us/2016/07/25/dnr-to-stock-muskellunge-in-...
From what it sounds like, our good buddy is still trying to fight Pelican and other lakes in his area which may be a reason why Lizzie, Franklin, and Loon didn't get stocked, but the future is looking bright.
http://minnesotawaters.org/loonlake/annual-meetings-2/2016-minutes/ |
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| I read the Waters report and our buddy Dave is lying again. Mille Lacs walleyes are not in trouble from muskies and the report on Pelican is the lake has never had better walleyes. |
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| That's awesome!!! Moving in the right direction. Congrats to everyone!!! |
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Location: Metro | BOOM! |
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| I'm pretty upset that they are not going to stock big marine. I would argue that the metro needs stocking much more then northern lakes. There is way to much pressure right now in the TC. We need to spread it out with more lakes closer to higher populations of people. |
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| bbradley - 7/25/2016 1:48 PM
I'm pretty upset that they are not going to stock big marine. I would argue that the metro needs stocking much more then northern lakes. There is way to much pressure right now in the TC. We need to spread it out with more lakes closer to higher populations of people.
I was really looking forward to getting Big Marine stocked! |
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| burningdubs - 7/25/2016 1:53 PM
bbradley - 7/25/2016 1:48 PM
I'm pretty upset that they are not going to stock big marine. I would argue that the metro needs stocking much more then northern lakes. There is way to much pressure right now in the TC. We need to spread it out with more lakes closer to higher populations of people.
I was really looking forward to getting Big Marine stocked!
I thought it was a done deal that the decision already been made to stock Big Marine in the Fall. I'm surprised they would do gull instead of BM.
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Location: Alex or Alek? | Not to start a Metro VS Non-metro debate, but the Brainard area and other areas of the state outside the metro are lacking muskie lakes. You metro guys have 10+ lakes (including tiger lakes) within a hour of each other to fish.
But I was also hoping Big Marine was going to get them  |
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| MOJOcandy101 - 7/25/2016 2:17 PM
Not to start a Metro VS Non-metro debate, but the Brainard area and other areas of the state outside the metro are lacking muskie lakes. You metro guys have 10+ lakes (including tiger lakes) within a hour of each other to fish.
But I was also hoping Big Marine was going to get them :)
Yea and about a 1000X more people too. The lakes outside of Tonka are smaller lakes (less then 5K acres). In all reality there are basically 3 good metro lakes to fish. Brained area has Mile Lacs and the Mississippi (which gets no pressure) Shamino isn't to far either.
Look I think we have identified a problem in that the sport is becoming to popular and there are just not enough lakes to support it long term.
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Location: Alex or Alek? | And where does all the cities fisherman go during the weekend or when the water temps get to hot.
Your right we need more lakes everywhere, just don't complain about not having enough lakes near the metro. |
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| I don't count the tiger lakes in the metro. I know some guys target them, but considering them 'true' muskie lakes skews the metro lake numbers I think. A couple 'true' muskie lakes are right in Minneapolis, which makes it tough, I'm not a big fan of hauling rig into Uptown and dealing with that mess. Rebecca is a brood lake, so most guys stay away (or should).
I totally agree that the Brainerd lakes area needed Gull and another lake or two eventually. But I really think the metro needs a few more, as well. Big Marine would have been great. I wonder if they will ever consider Prior or Medicine, or a lake or two up by Chisago? Getting past the politics will always be a big hurdle, but something has to be done. The pressure around the metro in the past 3-4 years is getting ridiculous. |
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| I would like to see them stock all the Chisago area lakes. Way to many small panfish and bass in all of them. |
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Location: New Hope MN | This is great news! Thanks to those who put in the countless hours to make this happen! |
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Location: Minnesota | So when they start stocking a new lake how many adults and fry will they start with the first year |
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| muskyhunter47 - 7/25/2016 7:45 PM
So when they start stocking a new lake how many adults and fry will they start with the first year they often start with some adults and then follow with fingerlings. From what I've seen its a combo effort between dnr and muskiesinc in the stocking to boost initial stocking. Adults aren't 50# though so don't get any ideas lol |
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| If people stop fishing rebecca when a couple degrees from boiling maybe we'd run a surplus on muskies and get some bonus waters stocked.... I'm probably going to start leaving some notes on windshields.
the metro could use a few new lakes:
1. lake sarah - almost a copy of indy
2. buffalo or pulaski
3. medicine - can't believe it isn't already
It'd be pretty cool to see them stock the crow river and create a west metro river fishery.
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Location: Walker, MN | Two more destinations for all of us, and to perhaps take a little pressure off of what we already have. This is great news! |
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| Great news! Even though I doubt I will ever fish either of them, any new lake is welcome news.
I started musky fishing 20 years ago. Pounded White Bear Lake a couple nights a week. Rarely saw more than a handful of boats out there. Also fished Forest Lake and Bald Eagle quite a bit. I rarely fish the metro anymore. Couple times a year if that.
It's not for a lack of time it's Way too many boats and pressure. It's just not fun for me to go musky fishing with that many other musky boats out there.
It really makes me cherish my time on the northern lakes that (some of them) have much less pressure.
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| muskyhunter47 - 7/25/2016 7:45 PM
So when they start stocking a new lake how many adults and fry will they start with the first year
Seems like the going rate is 1 fingerling per littoral acre each year for a few years, then every-other year after that. I've seen some lakes that they jump-start with a few adults (like 5 pounders) as well. |
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| foulpole18 - 7/25/2016 3:48 PM
I would like to see them stock all the Chisago area lakes. Way to many small panfish and bass in all of them.
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| Getting Gull is great news. Once it's fish come of age, it will produce true monsters given it's size and large forage base. 10,000 acres with abundant tulibee, what a win for the sport.
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Honestly I view this as a loss, only 2 lakes as opposed to what, the 6 they wanted to do? I’m really disappointed they dropped Big Marine, the metro does need a more musky lakes to spread the pressure out better, nothing like being one of 20 boats targeting muskies on a lake that’s less than 1,000 acres. I actually fish the Tiger lakes more than the pure lakes and IMO you can’t compare the two. Tiger lakes are great starter lakes as they are usually smaller, less than 500 acres, and Tigers tend to key in on smaller baits, so guys can go out with heavy bass setups and be good to go. Honestly the stocking of Harriet and the chain of lakes was either a half-baked idea, or an idea that they never fully completed as it’s a waste to spend the resources to stock lakes most people will never fish simply due to the surrounding area and lack of trailer parking.
And this isn’t to say I don’t think they should be stocking more lakes throughout the entire state as well, they totally should. But as typically happens in politics and as Newt pointed out last week, feelings are more important than scientific facts.
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| dami0101 - 7/26/2016 10:52 AM
Honestly I view this as a loss, only 2 lakes as opposed to what, the 6 they wanted to do? I’m really disappointed they dropped Big Marine, the metro does need a more musky lakes to spread the pressure out better, nothing like being one of 20 boats targeting muskies on a lake that’s less than 1,000 acres. I actually fish the Tiger lakes more than the pure lakes and IMO you can’t compare the two. Tiger lakes are great starter lakes as they are usually smaller, less than 500 acres, and Tigers tend to key in on smaller baits, so guys can go out with heavy bass setups and be good to go. Honestly the stocking of Harriet and the chain of lakes was either a half-baked idea, or an idea that they never fully completed as it’s a waste to spend the resources to stock lakes most people will never fish simply due to the surrounding area and lack of trailer parking.
And this isn’t to say I don’t think they should be stocking more lakes throughout the entire state as well, they totally should. But as typically happens in politics and as Newt pointed out last week, feelings are more important than scientific facts.
I agree completely. Getting Gull and Fairmont is awesome, but the fact they pulled back on the other lakes is not good. The precedence is now set - if you bark loud enough, you get your way. It's gonna be a battle every time a new lake is proposed. We'll get some, but I'm afraid more often than not, new stocking will get shot down. |
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Location: Alex or Alek? | Yes it sucks we didn't get all of them, but we also could've not gotten any of them..... The DNR set out a long term plan in 2008 to stock 8 new lakes by the year 2020. With these 2 lakes this year that brings the total to 5 (Roosevelt, Pokegama, Sauk River Chain). So hopefully 3 more lakes in the next 4 years. It was also never the DNR's plan to stock every lake this fall anyways, they knew they would meet opposition so that's why they mentioned 6 lakes, not just 2.
Yes obviously as muskie fisherman we want to see every lake mentioned stocked, but the reality is that just wont happen with the culture of this state.
I guess in my mind I wouldn't consider this a loss, yes it shows that if you complain enough there is a chance to get it stopped, but if you remember there was plenty of opposition against Gull lake, the Fairmount chain, a bill brought to the house/senate to stop all new lakes, and $16,000 spent on trying to end stocking in Pelican.
Take it as you want but the fact is in ten years we have 2 more lakes to fish. That's better than 0. |
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| Yup that's true. What ever happened with Tetonka? Did that get halted? |
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| http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/fisheries/muskiepike_2020.html
"Several years ago, the DNR prepared a long-range plan designed to balance interest in expanded muskie fishing opportunities with those opposing muskie management and continued stocking. The compromise reached in this plan called for eight new waters to be stocked with muskie by 2020. Three of those lakes – Roosevelt, Pokegema and the Sauk River Chain – already have been stocked."
The plan is 8 new waters by 2020...so the sky is not falling. They're not ceasing plans on other lakes, they are just moving forward on these two right now. Getting them in Gull now before the anti's have another opportunity to block it is the right move. This means we now have 5 of the 8 the DNR planned on, and there is still 4 years left in their plan. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Be patient. Good things take time ..... "baby steps"
What did Gill Hamm have when he started this "muskie thing"
Happy Hooker and his Crew are on the job. Support these guys and their efforts and things will get done.
Thanks for all of the people that work so hard to get more Lakes stocked...God Bless you. |
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| Captain - 7/25/2016 8:15 PM
muskyhunter47 - 7/25/2016 7:45 PM
So when they start stocking a new lake how many adults and fry will they start with the first year they often start with some adults and then follow with fingerlings. From what I've seen its a combo effort between dnr and muskiesinc in the stocking to boost initial stocking. Adults aren't 50# though so don't get any ideas lol
"In 2011, the DNR stocked 1,030 muskie fingerlings, 515 of the Leech Lake strain in Cedar Island and Horseshoe lakes. That year 136 adults in the 20- to 36-inch range also were stocked." They did a subsequent stocking in 2013 but those were only fingerlings. |
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Location: Almond, WI | Minnesota Muskie Alliance is circulating a petition to support stocking, take the time to sign.
https://www.change.org/p/don-pereira-fisheries-chief-stock-muskies-t... |
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| DNR recently dedicated yearling/young adult muskie stocking to only a few lakes, I believe in the metro area. I doubt yearling/young adult muskies will be stocked in new lakes anymore. DNR wants to be able to better assess a consistent fingerling stocking strategy. So many lakes were stocked with a variety of age muskies, it was hard to draw conclusions on what was working and what wasn't working as well. |
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