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Location: minocqua, wi. | anyone remember the tekneek? i still have a couple of em ... |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I think I have six Tekneeks. Great lure... |
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| I fish Vermilion almost exclusively. Only 4 years now though. I understand info stated; dawgs, dusas, and 10s produce big fish. However, you experienced guys comment on this... it seems the popularity of those baits exploded at the same time the MN fisheries were maturing and CPR was really taking hold in the musky community. A buddy of mine lived on the V during the prime. He swears by an old chewed up eagle tail, which still produces. He's not Bob M, but has lost track of how many 50+ he's caught. Last year the longest pattern was burning showgirls, not 10s or 8s/9s... Again, not arguing the fact those baits work, just wondering about it. |
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Location: MN | Showgirls are 8's, but your point is taken |
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| Growing up in the era where big baits are king, it's very hard for me to have confidence in some of the smaller baits. I did not grow up and fish with the smaller lures to see how effective they were so all I have known is that the bigger baits work and work well. I enjoy throwing bigger baits and while smaller baits may work, it's hard to defer from something you know. |
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Location: oswego, il | I have about a dozen teek needs and there is about 4-5 different variations.
I have a bunch of TR Twitchers, remember when they were hot? Still a great bait, surprised they are not as popular as they were.
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Location: Thief River Falls MN | Cisco Kids, jackpots, harassers.. |
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Location: North St. Paul, MN | Good ol lindys muskyroller 
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Location: Aurora | I wanna be in this! I wanna be in this!!
Sleight Baits, Musky Chasers, Hawg Tails & Eagle Spins |
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| No love for the Radtke minnows???? No Minneapolis Northwest sports show was complete without hearing "those guys over there are tryin to sell ya a broomstick" has he pointed at the Burger Brothers booth. |
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Location: SE, WI. | ^Yep, Caught many fish on the Radtke pikie^. One of our best days W/ Pikies, was on Pelican, Oneida County, in October! And Yes, still use them on Occasion. I can still see Gail, swishing his lures in the Horse trough. JD
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Location: Not where I want to be! | My first muskie, 1971, was on a Marathon Big Slim. Caught lots of em in the 70's on Big Slims. It was probable the platform/concept for every blade we have now. Another is the Grassels double O . First double bladed bait I can recall. |
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| I don't throw the big stuff much. Just for short periods because my body just can't take it anymore. My "old" go to stuff includes Muskie Candies, Wades Wobblers, Reef Hawgs, Top Raiders, Hawg Wobblers, Jackpots and Depth Raiders. |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | ToddM - 3/30/2016 4:36 PM
I want to go back to the days when I knew everything and nobody else knew anything as well.:-)
Todd- We've made full circle, so you're back there. Personally, I like the old days of using a 00 mepps on a flyrod for Gila trout!
Guy's, the days of big baits are here because gear has been designed to handle them. However, how many handmade old big baits did the old guides and muskie guys make and use over the last +100 years? There were some larger baits also made back then, mostly saltwater. Anybody have any of these old large lures? I saw a large home-made creeper at an antique shop in LaCrosse WI, it was ~10" long....using real old school hardware, hand-made copper wings, etc. I was undecided about buying it, and went back a week later it was gone.
The real problem has already been mentioned, its the wear and tear on your body throwing them all day long as you get older. The new gear helps a lot, however, most of them troll just fine on standard gear! How many walleye guys have you heard complaining about muskies t-boning their 14-16" or bigger walleye's? Do you really think its a new modern day observation for them to complain? Time on the water, you learn some things.
Its amazing to me the number of booths/guys making 10's, etc. at the fishing shows...yet there are limited number of big rubber bait makers?
In case you may have missed it...
http://www.in-fisherman.com/pike-muskie/big-muskie-baits/
Have fun!
Al
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| Some pros call this the golden age of musky fishing. It also interestingly, coincides with the popularity of 10's and dawgs. Hmmmm. Kdawg |
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Location: WI | Let's not forget Mud Puppies & Cisco Kid Toppers. Threw those with a 5'6" St Croix "pool cue" and an Ambassaduer 5000B loaded with 36lb dacron. |
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| 6500's on 7 1/2 foot rods throwing Smity Baits, Hawg Wobblers and Mepp's Musky Killers still work fine. But for sure guys like me at the launch don't look as cool as the guy at the launch with the Tranx on a 9 1/2 foot rod with a pounder tied on the end. |
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| I match the hatch with 7" to 9" perch colored baits. Works. Nothing over ~ 4 oz. |
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Location: Already Gone | Creek Chub Jointed Pikie Minnows came in different sizes, which was cool...you could dial in the size you thought would be effective. Color too.
Even if you wanted to whip out the 11 inch. I know I still do. |
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Location: Already Gone | I wanted to add the pic. These were/are very versatile baits. |
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Location: Pewaukee, WI | How about the Heddon Vamp, Flap-tail, & Crazy crawler? Now, that's talking old! |
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Location: Already Gone | Mark Hoerich - 4/2/2016 3:23 PM
Creek Chub Jointed Pikie Minnows came in different sizes, which was cool...you could dial in the size you thought would be effective. Color too.
Even if you wanted to whip out the 11 inch. I know I still do. ;-)
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Location: Black Creek, WI | Just remember the FUN FACTOR. There are lots of different ways to catch a musky (as proven by history). When you reach the point in your "career" that you begin to choose HOW you catch your fish.... then the FUN FACTOR becomes most relevant. If you are still worried about getting "out fished" by your buddy.... then forget the Fun Factor. Your ego isn't ready yet... and you'll have to man-up and toss whatever it takes to compete (which may not always be a 10 or Dawg). This year I plan to fish Topwaters more, simply for the enjoyment. Will it cost me a few fish? Probably. But that's my choice in order to enhance the Fun Factor for me. Heck, some days I think burning a 10 or tossin' a Dawg are FUN. When it's no longer fun... switch to something else. Pretty simple. |
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Location: Already Gone | I really like this post, Jason. In a fishing world now filled with glittery boats, TV shows, Go Pro's, and internet boards loaded with one-upmanship, I have to smile when we pick up a few nice fish each season with an older bait.... on our own schedule...on some out of the way water no one else thinks is any good. It's alot of fun.
This game is supposed to be fun and relaxing to the mind....it still is in my boat. |
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| As in just about any kind of business or sport, there is very little that is truly new. I remember fishing with a buddy back in the late 1970s when he pulled out a home made bait someone had made for him. It was a replica of the Suick, but measured almost 14" long. It was made of balsa, through wired and coated with epoxy. It had the biggest trebles I had ever seen at that time. It was relatively light for its size but when it hit he water, it sounded like a log rolling off a river bank. My thought was, "well, with all that noise, we won't see anything today". The spot he chose to try it out on was a stump bay where he had a large musky follow the previous weekend. We worked the bay, me with a bucktail and him with that giant bait. After about 10 minutes I looked up to see how the lure looked in the water just in time to see a giant hit right at the boat. It's head had to be a least a foot long and it shook the lure back and forth, getting both of us wet before throwing the lure over the top of the boat and into the water on the other side. I had to apologize to my buddy for doubting that huge lure. He did catch some fish on it over the years, but given the equipment of the time and the challenge of working it with those short rods, he didn't throw it that much. |
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| big Johnson silver spoon with a plastic trailer. |
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| Double tens and bigger always have a place in my boat and they undeniably catch fish , however that being said i use a lot of single bladed homemade bucktails and double 8's . These catch plenty of fish for me and the big stuff is relegated to night use for the most part. I do however still use the big rubber a lot ! My shoulders have been tore up for years but the off season prep keeps em ticking!! I think that is by far the most important to keeping yourself going. At 49 i feel i have an easier time now than i ever did just because i prepare better in the winter with plenty of weight training, and am gearing towards the "work smarter not harder" mantra as i age.
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Location: Eagan, MN | I still love a Reef Hawg. So did my PB fish. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | At 24 I started getting serious when I was 16-17.. I've never known another way/era. My dad still prefers fishing with 7'6 rods and smaller baits though. |
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Location: Minnetonka | After reading this thread, I realize there are so many original individuals throwing everything but 10s and Dawgs that I should just continue throwing 10s and Dawgs because nobody actually throws 10s and Dawgs anymore.
What I miss are the first days of 10s and Dawgs when muskies destroyed them with reckless abandon.
What I look forward to are the days after 10s and Dawgs when muskies are reintroduced to old lures, which has apparently already arrived.
Jason Long pretty much nailed it, though. Nice.
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