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dsqui
Posted 9/24/2015 4:26 PM (#785902)
Subject: measuring fish




Posts: 39


when measuring your muskie how do you guys set the tail


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bturg
Posted 9/24/2015 5:11 PM (#785904 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish




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Generally they are measured from the nose to the tip of the tail. Pinching the tail makes little or no difference.
curleytail
Posted 9/24/2015 5:32 PM (#785906 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
Yup, nose to tip of tail. Sometimes I pinch the tail slightly but don't usually pay much attention to that.
ToddM
Posted 9/24/2015 5:38 PM (#785910 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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Location: oswego, il
Pinch the tail on a bump board, otherwise it is a meaningless measurement.
Muskyjoe29
Posted 9/24/2015 6:03 PM (#785916 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish




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I like to guess. Fish are always a little bigger that way
Obfuscate Musky
Posted 9/24/2015 6:57 PM (#785923 - in reply to #785916)
Subject: Re: measuring fish




Posts: 652


Location: MPLS, MN
Muskyjoe29 - 9/24/2015 6:03 PM

I like to guess. Fish are always a little bigger that way


lol "yep, another fifty"
sworrall
Posted 9/24/2015 7:00 PM (#785924 - in reply to #785910)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
ToddM - 9/24/2015 5:38 PM

Pinch the tail on a bump board, otherwise it is a meaningless measurement.


Bumpboards do not posses a tail.
ToddM
Posted 9/24/2015 7:31 PM (#785926 - in reply to #785924)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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Location: oswego, il
sworrall - 9/24/2015 7:00 PM

ToddM - 9/24/2015 5:38 PM

Pinch the tail on a bump board, otherwise it is a meaningless measurement.


Bumpboards do not posses a tail.


LMAO!
muskidiem
Posted 9/24/2015 8:41 PM (#785932 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: RE: measuring fish





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How do I join the Bumpboard Posse?
pklingen
Posted 9/25/2015 4:51 AM (#785947 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish




Posts: 858


Location: NE Ohio
i'm waiting for the day i start seeing the measuring tool printed on the outside of the boat at water level like they do on 'the mad fin shark series' tv show. then you would have something!
ToddM
Posted 9/25/2015 5:39 AM (#785948 - in reply to #785932)
Subject: RE: measuring fish





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Location: oswego, il
muskidiem - 9/24/2015 8:41 PM

How do I join the Bumpboard Posse?


First, you need a giant ego. Second it needs to bother you to see people catching fish as big and bigger than the ones you have caught. Third, if the posted picture of those fish do not appear to you to be as big as they claim, it needs to completely unravel you. Then and only then can you join the bump board posse!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y15PYsyYzk


Edited by ToddM 9/25/2015 6:18 AM
Stein
Posted 9/25/2015 9:38 AM (#785976 - in reply to #785947)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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Location: Nebraska

pklingen - 9/25/2015 4:51 AM i'm waiting for the day i start seeing the measuring tool printed on the outside of the boat at water level like they do on 'the mad fin shark series' tv show. then you would have something!

 

The fish should have pre-printed measurements on them.  That way every follow my boat partner sees isn't another "upper 40's" fish.

 

OOOOHHHH! Maybe just a big number in a meatball sign like the old race cars.  As they grow the number changes! That way you can tell at a glance!

MartinTD
Posted 9/25/2015 9:47 AM (#785979 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: RE: measuring fish





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Location: NorthCentral WI
... good enough for the girls I go out with.


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esoxaddict
Posted 9/25/2015 9:50 AM (#785981 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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Best way to measure a fish is not not measure it at all. Then you can call it 51" when it's really only 48", post a picture of it on the internet and have the the musky CSI jump all over you telling you it's 45" at best. If you average the lowest estimate and your overstated length, you get a perfect measurement!



Edited by esoxaddict 9/25/2015 9:52 AM
dsqui
Posted 9/25/2015 10:02 AM (#785985 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish




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some of u guys are too funny. bump boards dont have tails lol that was a good one
achotrod
Posted 9/25/2015 12:51 PM (#786012 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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I measure nose to tip of the tail and add 3 inches!
johnsonaaro2
Posted 9/25/2015 12:59 PM (#786013 - in reply to #786012)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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Location: Madison, WI
If everyone says it's 3 inches bigger it might make people develop a complex and start web searching things like "what is the average fish length" or "do women really care what size your fish is"... Thats why i only use magnum bumpboards
fin_prof
Posted 9/25/2015 1:01 PM (#786015 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: RE: measuring fish




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It is simple geometry - pinching the tail will make a difference. Don't let anyone tell you any differently. Will it make a huge difference? Probably not - it depends upon how long the fish (and tail are). I have noticed that for a really large fish it can make a half an inch difference or more; however, it depends upon a lot of things: is the tail long or stubby, pliable or not (musky tails are not the most pliable), etc...

For those of you that say it doesn't make a difference - go back and take a look at a geometry book - it is simple triangle math. Sorry for the rant but to me it is like people saying the world is flat - NO IT'S NOT! There is scientific proof that the world is round. There are entire books on geometry.

If you don't want to look at the math book - cut a small piece of paper (or better yet - fabric since it is easier to bend) into a triangle. Then pin any of the pointed ends down and bend/crunch the opposite points together - it will measure differently than if you just pinned a pointed end down and measured how for it is from the tip to the base.

I am not a musky fishing expert by any means, but I do know math and geometry.
Moltisanti
Posted 9/25/2015 1:23 PM (#786016 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish




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Location: Hudson, WI
Trust me, pinching the tail makes a huge difference. My father in law has made many a 13.5" walleye make the 15" mark just by pinching the tail a little bit.
muskidiem
Posted 9/25/2015 1:38 PM (#786018 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: RE: measuring fish





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I'm considering starting a certification course on eyeballing fish size. I think Globe University maybe: earn your true BS in Esox Occular Accuracy. 100% job placement as size moderators on fishing furums. For those who can tell exactly what size a following fish is by mere glance within a millionth of a few inches.

Too much caffiene today.
Yooper Padre
Posted 9/25/2015 2:03 PM (#786021 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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Location: Watersmeet, Michigan
Doesn't make a difference on catch and release, but when you're keeping fish to eat, accurate measurements are important. In most states, length is measured with the fish's mouth closed and tail pinched.

Fr. K
fin_prof
Posted 9/25/2015 2:15 PM (#786022 - in reply to #786021)
Subject: Re: measuring fish




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Yooper Padre - 9/25/2015 2:03 PM

Doesn't make a difference on catch and release, but when you're keeping fish to eat, accurate measurements are important. In most states, length is measured with the fish's mouth closed and tail pinched.

Fr. K


That is the law here in WI Yooper.

Also, I don't care how anyone measures their fish (for catch and release purposes). That said, I do get annoyed when someone points out as fact something that is simply untrue - and easily proven to be untrue. I like to engage in discussions like anyone else, and will state my opinions on many subjects - sometimes to a fault. I like the discussions. However, there is a difference between stating something as an opinion (to be discussed and debated) and stating something as a blanket fact. If you state something as a fact - make sure it is true!
ToddM
Posted 9/25/2015 2:34 PM (#786025 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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Location: oswego, il
Last time i pinched the tail I could not see out of my left eye for three days.
Mark Hoerich
Posted 9/25/2015 3:06 PM (#786026 - in reply to #786025)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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Location: Already Gone
He wasn't happy with you at all....
rodbender
Posted 9/25/2015 3:38 PM (#786031 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: RE: measuring fish





Location: varies
a rolling pin can get you another inch or two.


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esoxaddict
Posted 9/25/2015 3:59 PM (#786037 - in reply to #786025)
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ToddM - 9/25/2015 2:34 PM

Last time i pinched the tail I could not see out of my left eye for three days.


Here's the rest of the story:

I happened to run into Todd shortly after this happened. Two black eyes.

"Holy crap, Todd! What happened?!"

it was innocent enough....

"Well, I was sitting in church last Sunday, and you know how it is - you stand up, you sit, you stand up you sit, you stand up... So this lady in front of be stood up and I noticed that her dress was up her crack. I thought I'd be a nice guy and fix it for her. Well, wouldn't you know it, she turned around and socked me!"

So I said "Okay, Todd. But how do you explain the OTHER black eye?"

Here's where it gets good...

"Well, after that I figured she wanted it like that, so when she turned back around I decided to put it back for her."



Edited by esoxaddict 9/25/2015 4:01 PM
Stein
Posted 9/25/2015 4:43 PM (#786043 - in reply to #786031)
Subject: RE: measuring fish





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Location: Nebraska

rodbender - 9/25/2015 3:38 PM a rolling pin can get you another inch or two.

 

Just the opposite.  That pic gave me shrinkage. 

tundrawalker00
Posted 9/25/2015 5:31 PM (#786047 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish




Posts: 497


Location: Ludington, MI
Hold them up to the setting sun and you can tell how many hours you have left to fish. Pinching the tail makes no difference.
achotrod
Posted 9/26/2015 11:17 AM (#786096 - in reply to #785902)
Subject: Re: measuring fish





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I bet tournament guys pinch the tail on every fish that hits the bump board.
fin_prof
Posted 10/1/2015 1:39 PM (#786834 - in reply to #786047)
Subject: Re: measuring fish




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"Hold them up to the setting sun and you can tell how many hours you have left to fish. Pinching the tail makes no difference."


Yes.... and the earth is flat. You are probably just a troll trying to muddy the water but if you are not and are you being serious please do not teach your kids math. Your comment brings up memories of Billy Madison:

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought."

Edited by fin_prof 10/1/2015 1:42 PM
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