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| Looking at getting a new pick up thinking of going to silverado 1500 with a 5.3 have always had 2500s was looking for thoughts on the 1500s I tow a tuffy 1890 tiller
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Location: Appleton, WI | Have a 1500 and pull my boat with no problems at all. they are a great choice. |
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Location: Bloomington, MN | I used my 2000 1500 to tow a huge boat boat that was within the the towing capacity which is about 2.5X's as much as an 1890 weighs. The truck for some reason had issues (leaking head gasket) with 125k miles. I traded it in and got something that I'm not proud of, but does what I need it to do. You sure don't need a 2500 to tow your boat, a 1500 will do just fine. I would like to have a Ford F150, but due to high demand of the Ford, Chevrolet might be making some "deals".
Edited by Clark A 5/24/2015 9:18 PM
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| I have a 2015 5.3 Silverado & pull a 16 foot Lund with a 50 HP motor. Never ever came close to running out of power. Great truck. I agree no need for a 2500. |
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Location: The desert | Tow my 1890 tiller with a v6 jeep. It tows it with no trouble, you'll be fine. |
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| I didnt have a Chevy but my 13 F150 5.0 pulls my 17ft bass boat like nothing. Actually the fuel mileage barely changes. Also tows my 3400# car and 1500# steel trailer with ease. You will have zero issues in the chevy. |
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Location: Madison, WI | This should answer all your Chevy questions ??
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UfHtcUZXljw |
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Location: Weyauwega Wi. | I pull my X-190 with my Silverado. No issues what so ever.
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| If your use to a 2500 don't do it. I had a 2013 Chevy with the 5.3 and my wife has a 2013 yukon with the 5.3. They pull my 1750 fish hawk fine but I'll never be happy with a half ton now that I have a 3/4 ton cummins. I can set the cruise on 80 and it never downshift or looses speed. A lot less strain on the driveline. Plus I avg 20mpg towing where as the Silverado was lol icky to get 15 not towinng. I recommend you test drive the truck and hook your boat to it. See what you think rather than anybody else's opinion it's your money. |
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| Thanks for the replies
as always your thoughts help |
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Location: Money, PA | I pulled a 4700 lbs Lake Erie boat with my 5.3 for years and it handled it beautifully! The tow package makes it nice with the tow/haul mode and engine breaking. Now I pull my 20 footer and hardly know its behind me. |
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| In all honesty, it isn't even fair to compare an older Silverado to a new one. The new 5.3, yes new, it shares very few parts to the old one, but shares displacement is really a brand new engine. My buddy has one and it is amazing comparing that to the 2013 he had. HUGE difference. Quieter, way more power, better acceleration and it tows so much easier. Gas mileage is much better too. He struggled getting 18 with his 2013, but now he is getting over 22 unloaded. |
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Location: Central Illinois | I picked up a 2014 Silverado Z71 4X4 5.3 to replace my 2007 Silverado. The new 5.3 is a big improvement over the the one I had in my 2007. I have not done any long distance towing - just short distance pulling bulk wagaons within 10 miles of home - but the highway mileage is 19 mpg versus 16 for the 07. Overall I love the truck. Great accelleration. I thought about getting a diesel (looked hard at the Ram 1/2 ton with the new diesel) but unless you do a lot of towing it is hard to justify the price difference.
Edited by Duffer58 5/27/2015 6:22 PM
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| the last two posts are on the money..I have a 2014 Silverado 4x4 as well and pull my Ranger 621 several thousand miles every year, pulls it just fine.. Great truck, I get 23-25 mpg when not towing on the interstate.
Edited by IAJustin 5/27/2015 8:28 PM
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| I've been towing a buddy's Lund 1890 with a Merc 90 Tiller---- from Canada to Indiana----- and all points in between for the last five years with my 1500 5.3 V8----- no problem------more than enough juice.-- Pat |
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Location: Lake Elmo, MN | Although I am a Ford F150 guy (Currently a 2014 F150 FX4 Supercrew), I can tell you that a Silverado 1500 will tow that boat without breathing hard. I tow a Ranger 620 fully decked out with a 6 cyl Ecoboost F150 and it is effortless.
Enjoy that new truck and don't worry a lick about the towing. You'll have no issues. The Silverado 1500 is a nice ride !!
Edited by PSAGuy 5/28/2015 11:35 AM
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| Man its your money do what you want. I'm guessing most of the guys saying their 5.3 tows just fine have never towed a similar rig with a diesel. I've seen way ti many guys drop down to a half ton and within a year they are shopping for a new diesel. My brother in law just sold his power stroke and bought a 5.0 f150 and he's kicking him self in the nuts. It's all personal preference. Some guys are fine with a 16 ft aluminum boat with a 40 hp some guys just have to have a 621 with a 300hp |
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Location: Minnesota | I had a 04 diesel nice truck traded it in on a 05 Chevy 1/2 ton and bought a 04 Crestliner CMV with a 150 Yamaha for less then what I was paying for the diesel. Best thing I did. I now drive a 2012 Chevy avalanche pulling a 2012 skeeter MX 1825 no problem pulling it . |
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Location: Lake Elmo, MN | I get the diesel thing.....really do......but it is HUGE overkill.
I have towed several Ranger 620's over the years, with F150's without a single issue. I've had a number of 5.4liter and the V6 eco boost engines. Sure diesels can pull more....but you simply do not need it.....even with a fully loaded Ranger 620 or 621. Those boats and trailers only weigh about 4000 pounds fully loaded up. These trucks today routinely have capacities of 9,500 - 12,000 pounds !! That is a 5,000 pound delta !
There are plusses and minuses for diesels. But for towing a fishing boat (glass or aluminum)....virtually ANY full size pickup does the job without any issue whatsoever.
Edited by PSAGuy 5/29/2015 8:19 AM
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Location: Northern Illinois | Check out the new F-150 with the 2.7 twin turbo ecoboost. That may be a small engine but man, from what I've seen that thing will put most trucks in the light duty class to shame, extremely fast, great towing power, and great fuel economy! That 2.7 is a BEAST!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n2uEx8CojE
Edited by Cranker 5/28/2015 10:59 PM
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Location: Money, PA | Nothing tows like a diesel truck for sure, but IMO a diesel is overkill for pulling the rigs in question...bottom line. |
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Location: Central Illinois | I agree with ShutUpNFish. No questions a diesel tows the best but is it necessary? I drive 25k miles per year but less than 5k towing my boat n trailer that weighs about 2400 lbs fully loaded. I would have loved to have bought a diesel but couldn't justify the cost difference given how I use my truck. What I saved on the truck (my dealer gave me a great deal on my new truck) closed the gap on enabling me to pick up a new Polaris Ranger. On the other hand dude I know drives 15k+ miles per year pulling an enclosed car carrier around the country picking up / delivering classic cars. He puts his diesel powered Ram 3/4 ton to good use. I would love to have a diesel truck but just can't justfy the extra cost. |
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| have you noticed the price tag on the ecoboost? you can buy a ram or chevy diesel for the same or less money than a ecoboost. My father in law has a ecoboost and yes it has plenty of power for what it is but he has had a lot of issues and doesn't get close to the advertised fuel economy. I have a 3/4 ton ram and its really nice towing my boat. is it overkill? yes but who cares, I would rather be over powered than under powered. pulling the same rig on the same interstates I can set the cruise on my cummins at 75 mph and it never down shifts or even strains. When I tow the same rig with my wifes Yukon xl with the 5.3 I hit the same hills and it drops 2 gears and the rpms jump to the rev limiter and it still cant maintain speed. I prefer to not put a motor under that kind of strain and abuse. I would rather use 25% of my power and not over work the truck. Ask any truck driver if he would rather have just enough power or to much power.
once again, I feel the best answer is take your boat to the dealer and hook to it. why spend 30-50k on a truck and wonder if its what you really want. then you are either stuck with it or going to take a huge loss trading it in a year later. |
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Location: Lake Elmo, MN | The original post here was about this member's question regarding a Chevy Silverado 1500 and whether it can handle his rig. It ABSOLUTELY can handle it...and easily. That is the deal here. There is more than enough margin in the Silverado 1500 or the F150 EcoBoost, or Ram full size pickup (whatever they call those) to manage virtually ANY boat someone on this board would own or tow.
Diesels have their own issues...the least of which is not the extra cost diesel will ALWAYS have for fuel. The original post was not "Which is better diesel or gas". It was "Will a Silverado 1500 tow my boat".
Answer: YES ...it should actually tow TWO of his boats easily !! |
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| I wouldn't say easily, guess that is a matter of opinion. I was very unhappy with how underpowered my Silverado 1500 was. The 5.3 is a great motor and will out last the hemi or eco boost but it is way under powered to tow.as far as the newer Than 2013 models they only have 30 more horse and about 40 more ft lbs of torque. Still way under powered compared to the competition. As far as gas/diesel prices. Diesel is staying steady at 2.69 a gallon where as gas is closer to 3. I'll take my 25 mpg on the hwy and 20 mpg in town. The guy making the post mentioned also he would be stepping down from a 3/4 ton truck so actually the discussion has not gone away from the original topic. I gave the guy my honest opinion, not enough people give their honest opinion or are esucated enough on the topic. Ive had guys tell me you dont need a diesel truck that have never rode in one much less owned one. That was if he is use to towing his rig with a 3/4 ton truck he is going to be very unhappy with a 1/2 ton truck. Not only does the 3/4 ton pull the boat better it actually stops it faster as well. I've owned Chevy and dodge half tons and a decent size boat pushes them all over the road if you have to stop hard. They also get jerked around during a failure such as a blow out.
Just because they are rated to tow 12k lbs doesn't mean it's a good idea. That's on a perfect world and nothing more than a peeing contest to say who's truck tows more. Put 10 or 12 k lbs behind any halfton truck and tow it very much. You'll twist the frame and trash the drive train.
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| Clark mentions he used his 1500 to tow a huge boat and can't understand why his head gaskets leaked, prolly cause he overheated the engine and warped the heads towing that large boat. |
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Location: Lake Elmo, MN | Again I state to the original post with complete assurance....
I (and many others here) have towed some of the heaviest freshwater fishing boats available on the market today (Ranger 620's and 621's) for decades with standard full size trucks (non-diesel). We have towed them from Minnesota to Texas and beyond. We have towed them to Florida, New York, and over hill and dale. No issues, premature truck damage, or shortened truck life.
A diesel is not needed to tow any modern day freshwater aluminum or fiberglass boat 25' or less in length.
Now , if like you, a person gets a kick out of owning a diesel, then by all means buy one and enjoy it. Life is too short....gotta have some fun. Key is....diesel powered trucks are NOT by any stretch of the imagination even remotely needed to do the job.
Oh...one other safety related item.....if you are towing your trailer at 75mph, you are most likely exceeding the speed rating on your trailer tires. If NOT using specific trailer tires, then that's another whole safety issue entirely.
Edited by PSAGuy 5/29/2015 11:03 PM
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| My carlisle tires are n rated (87 mph) most modern trailer tires are rated this way because most interstates have a 70 mph speed limit and some have a 60 or 65 minimum.
I don't understand why so many guys get offended to hear another man's opinion. It's just a opinion read it and go on. I never said a 1500 will not tow a muskie rig I simply told him he more than likely wouldn't be happy. So all of these t3st vehicles you say don't have pre mature wear, how are you for certain they don't have pre mature wear? That statement basically throws your opinion out the door. Anybody that believes using a truck to tow anything doesn't put additional strain on the components of a vehicle when compared to not towing is wrong.
A similar comparison would be, I have a 621 ranger and I'm stepping down to a 1650 crestliner looking for opinions. Yes the crestliner will do the job but once you are use to the size of the ranger it's hard to go back. |
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Location: Storm Lake, IA | If you are in between a 1/2 and 3/4 go with a 1/2 ton with the NHT option (Max Tow Package). 3.73 Rear End, larger rear Axle, Trailer Brake Controller, Revised Shock Tuning, Heavier Rear Springs, and Enhanced Radiator Cooler. That being said I have pulled a 620 thousands of miles with a 14 Silverado 1500 without the NHT without any problems. My next truck will have the NHT, but that is because I want the Full Feature Towing Mirrors. The LED lights will be sweet backing the trailer in and out of dark ramps. |
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| My guess is he wouldn't be happy with the much higher fuel bill and the increase in maintenance costs by owning a diesel when the vast majority of the time the truck is used to haul kids to soccer practice.
With the EPA restrictions on diesels now there is no benefit to having one from a MPG standpoint and considering the fuel is $.80 a gallon higher, oil changes are nearly double and other "routine" maintenance is much higher you will never recoup the extra cost of BUYING a diesel with any savings from better fuel mileage so the ONLY benefit would be better towing of which someone may spend roughly 10% of their time actually doing.
Save the money, get a half ton. I had a 5.3 with 270K miles on it. Still towed my 19' boat great. The body was starting to rust, but the engine ran perfect.
I never use cruise when towing, this way I can eliminate almost all of the shifting. |
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