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Leck9
Posted 4/24/2015 7:30 PM (#766515)
Subject: First try lure





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Here are my first two attempt and lure making. im pretty happy with how they turned out. I used etex for the top coat and there is still a slight "tackyness" to them. I have read some of the posts on here and realize it could be a number of factors. anyone know how make them less tacky?
PS big thanks to eaglescout for helping me though these baits


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muskie tamer
Posted 4/24/2015 7:59 PM (#766523 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: Waconia,MN
Good job. When were they finished? It can take up to 48hrs to get a full cure.
Leck9
Posted 4/24/2015 8:05 PM (#766525 - in reply to #766515)
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its been about 4 days so i feel like they should be fully cured
muskie tamer
Posted 4/24/2015 8:10 PM (#766527 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: Waconia,MN
Yep they should be. Did you mix equal parts and mix it good so there's no swirls? I mix mine slowly for about 3 minutes in a clear cup. Mixing in a clear cup allows you to see the etex, it should be nice and clear no swirls or blurry looking spots. Give it another try you'll figure it out.
ToddM
Posted 4/24/2015 8:31 PM (#766530 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: oswego, il
It is critical to get the etex in equal parts. not enough hardener and it will be tacky.

Baits look great.

Edited by ToddM 4/24/2015 8:32 PM
Trophyseeker50
Posted 4/24/2015 8:50 PM (#766542 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: WI
Yup. The two parts must be exactly 50-50. I use 1 oz epoxy mixing cups.
jdsplasher
Posted 4/24/2015 9:17 PM (#766555 - in reply to #766542)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: SE, WI.
like others said, equal parts!!!  I mix for  6 -7 minutes. After about 4 minutes , I put in micro wave for about 5-6 seconds. This excelerates curing time. if you only are doing a few baits, your good. if your doing a bunch a baits, the microwave thing is not advised.

 Also, while mixing, make sure you try and wipe the sides of your cup often. I use a Popsicle stick, or small diameter doweling for scraping the walls of your cup!

My baits are pretty much cured in about 14-16 hours.

JD



Edited by jdsplasher 4/24/2015 9:20 PM
muskyslayer96
Posted 4/25/2015 6:52 AM (#766585 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: Madison, WI
Nice baits
Mix equal parts hardener and resin (this is very important) uusingsilicone free syrings works best, mix well for couple minutes scraping sides well to get a homogenous mix. Then pour into another clear plastic shot glass, mix well for another couple minutes. I then pour out onto ceramic tinfoil lined plate and cover with bowl. Let stand covered for 5-15 min before applying. This method has worked the best for me, my experience points to an incorrect mix as to the reason for the tackiness. The humidity can also be an issue if it gets too high.
Good luck and keep posting your work.
MS

Edited by muskyslayer96 4/25/2015 6:55 AM
Leck9
Posted 4/25/2015 8:37 AM (#766602 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Thanks for all the info everyone, ill definitely try the syrings next time. as for these ones, should i try puting another coat on? or should they still last a while? would applying heat help at all?
ToddM
Posted 4/25/2015 8:39 AM (#766605 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: oswego, il
I would put one more cos on.

Has anyone tried crystal sheen?
muskyslayer96
Posted 4/25/2015 9:05 AM (#766609 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: Madison, WI
Another coat propely aapplied is your best bet. Nothing I've tried will fix the tackiness.
RAZE1
Posted 4/25/2015 5:54 PM (#766657 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: NeverNever Lake
Like it was said, it's critical to get 50/50 and equally so to mix it thoroughly while scraping the sides of container. The smaller the batch, the less room for mistakes. I would also consider giving Crystal Sheen a try. Made by the same folks that manufacture E-tex Lite, it dries somewhat faster and perhaps harder. Temp and humidity are also factors in the curing process. A quick shot in the microwave before application may also prove to be beneficial. I can tell you that I got really good at working with this stuff, it was quite common for me to completely paint and coat a bait the night before a fishing trip and use that bait the next day in the water........

Edited by RAZE1 4/25/2015 5:56 PM
phishmasta
Posted 4/25/2015 9:17 PM (#766674 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure




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Is crystal sheen the new stuff that menards carries and replaced etex with on their shelves??
RAZE1
Posted 4/25/2015 9:25 PM (#766675 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: NeverNever Lake
I'm going to guess and say no...http://eti-usa.com/crystal-sheen-2/
Jeremy
Posted 4/25/2015 10:53 PM (#766686 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: RE: First try lure




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Location: Minnesota.
Very nice job on those baits Adam. I'm guessing you'll have a ball fishing them!

Jeremy.
bowhunter29
Posted 4/26/2015 6:59 AM (#766692 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: South-Central PA
Wow, nice job!! Those baits look great!

Follow the advice of putting one more coat on.

Jeremy
RAZE1
Posted 4/26/2015 4:18 PM (#766733 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





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Location: NeverNever Lake
I have also had a lot of success using http://www.flexcoat.com/products/finishes-adhesives/rod-wrapping-fi... it's a great finish with UV additives, something the aforementioned lack....
RAZE1
Posted 4/26/2015 4:25 PM (#766735 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: Re: First try lure





Posts: 938


Location: NeverNever Lake
http://www.mudhole.com/Rod-Building-101/Exclusive-Look-Automatic-Ep...

http://www.mudhole.com/CRB-Epoxy-Mixing-System-110V?gclid=CjwKEAjwm...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epoxy-resin-mixing-machine-rotating-base-/2...



Edited by RAZE1 4/26/2015 4:43 PM
Eaglescout2012
Posted 4/26/2015 8:35 PM (#766760 - in reply to #766515)
Subject: RE: First try lure





Posts: 369


Those look amazing!!! Nice job Adam and thanks for the shoutout!

-Zachary
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