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jonnysled
Posted 2/19/2015 11:44 AM (#754829 - in reply to #754824)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





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Location: minocqua, wi.
T_Peterzen55 - 2/19/2015 11:35 AM

Top H2O - 2/19/2015 11:06 AM

T_Peterzen55 - 2/19/2015 10:40 AM

My only sweet golf/Muskie moment is tying the course record at The Wilderness at Fortune bay in the morning 66 (-6) and then catching a 55.5 PB incher that evening.


Timmy, I believe the 55.5 incher (right of the Docks at Fortune Bay ( wink, wink ) but, come on....66....You probably avg. 335 yds. off tee also. Nice


Not kidding! Played for the Gophs for 4 years at college. I was 50/50 on turning pro but couldn't give up the Minnesota outdoor lifestyle!


i hope you bought a lottery ticket that day too ... those are some solid numbers! take the number all the way in or did you drop a couple trying to hold on?
Top H2O
Posted 2/19/2015 11:57 AM (#754834 - in reply to #754824)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
T_Peterzen55 - 2/19/2015 11:35 AM

Top H2O - 2/19/2015 11:06 AM

T_Peterzen55 - 2/19/2015 10:40 AM

My only sweet golf/Muskie moment is tying the course record at The Wilderness at Fortune bay in the morning 66 (-6) and then catching a 55.5 PB incher that evening.


Timmy, I believe the 55.5 incher (right of the Docks at Fortune Bay ( wink, wink ) but, come on....66....You probably avg. 335 yds. off tee also. Nice



Not kidding! Played for the Gophs for 4 years at college. I was 50/50 on turning pro but couldn't give up the Minnesota outdoor lifestyle!


Pro Golfers SEE all kinds of wildlife on Tour every week.
curleytail
Posted 2/19/2015 12:23 PM (#754840 - in reply to #754034)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
I never guessed this would get the attention it has! Thanks to all for your thoughts. Thanks for the several PM's I have received also.

There are some mixed opnions, but overall I get the feeling that while MN isn't what it was 10 years ago (that's not surprising), it still offers some very good fishing opportunities and is probably worth a trip here and there. I think I'll have to do some research and give it a shot sometime.

Appreciate the thoughts and advice. If you've got more to add, feel free to keep it going!

Tucker
BNelson
Posted 2/19/2015 12:25 PM (#754841 - in reply to #754840)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





Location: Contrarian Island
look into hiring a guide for a day your 1st day over there...that can cut the learning curve and would be well worth the money going in blind..... lots of good ones still left over there...Cochran, Williamson, Luke, etc etc etc
ARmuskyaddict
Posted 2/19/2015 1:29 PM (#754864 - in reply to #754034)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





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I fish with a buddy that used to guide, doesn't seem to have helped me. And Timmy won't give up his Cheese Curds hat, so I will stick to 1 fish a week and yelling at the ones that run away.
T_Peterzen55
Posted 2/19/2015 1:53 PM (#754872 - in reply to #754864)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





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ARmuskyaddict - 2/19/2015 1:29 PM

I fish with a buddy that used to guide, doesn't seem to have helped me. And Timmy won't give up his Cheese Curds hat, so I will stick to 1 fish a week and yelling at the ones that run away.


To risky to loan out the secret hat! Might just have to jump in the boat with me then!
ARmuskyaddict
Posted 2/19/2015 1:56 PM (#754873 - in reply to #754034)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





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Sounds good to me! I'll even settle for another fat 32 NR incher from the same spot I saw my first musky to simply get out and fish the V!
jasond
Posted 2/20/2015 10:25 AM (#755083 - in reply to #754873)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




Posts: 187


Location: West Metro, MN
Every fishery has peaks and valleys. Mille Lacs and Vermillion are past their mid-2000's peak, but for me part of the fun of musky fishing and fishing in general is trying to figure out a lake that is "new to you". If you catch 1 fish or 10 fish in a week on Vermillion I would say it is worth going at least once because it is an absolutely beautiful place to spend a day or a week. Every time I try new water I like to think that figure something out that helps me on my "home waters" in some way.
Musky Brian
Posted 2/20/2015 4:21 PM (#755156 - in reply to #755083)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





Posts: 1767


Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
why do you find Lake Vermilion to be so beautiful? If you keep going a bit further north to LOTW, Rainy, Eagle, Lac Seul, etc....you get the same beauty of big water but without all the traffic and development I really don't get why people are so in love with Vermilion.

Edited by Musky Brian 2/20/2015 4:33 PM
Top H2O
Posted 2/20/2015 4:50 PM (#755160 - in reply to #755156)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Musky Brian - 2/20/2015 4:21 PM

why do you find Lake Vermilion to be so beautiful? If you keep going a bit further north to LOTW, Rainy, Eagle, Lac Seul, etc....you get the same beauty of big water but without all the traffic and development I really don't get why people are so in love with Vermilion.


Just my personal opinion but I love Vermilion. And I think it's Beautiful.
Plus it's in America... Those other Lakes are just farther North and more remote.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
jasond
Posted 2/20/2015 5:10 PM (#755166 - in reply to #755160)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




Posts: 187


Location: West Metro, MN
I've been to LOTW, Lac Seul and Eagle (which is probably my all time favorite), but per the topic of MN fisheries I will take Vermillion for natural beauty all day.
Top H2O
Posted 2/20/2015 5:25 PM (#755171 - in reply to #755166)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
I have only been to LOTW and Rainy. both are good places,,
Eagle is on my Bucket list.
I do have a problem with not being allowed to have Beer on the boat, especially if the driver isn't drinking. The Cost's for going on a Canadian trip compared to staying in MN. or WI is much higher. (Most cases)
In any case the catching isn't as good in MN. as it once was.....I'm thinking parts of Canada may be the same.
happy hooker
Posted 2/20/2015 6:38 PM (#755185 - in reply to #755171)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




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Going off the original title

Minnesota is damm tough!!! High taxes and sub zero weather hardin ya, we cold take on north/south Dakota ad iowa all at once.
Wisconsin however by recent estimates has us beat by about 400 thousand.but we do have the st Croix has a natural barricade and a invading force should have a 3 to 1 ratio to expect success.
Illinois is the big threat!! They are an aggressor. Appeasement in the form of paying their toll booths when we pass through isn't enough. They have learned from Rommel that blitzkrieg tactics to the hotbite bandwagon is the only strategy look at the past battle fronts of Chippewa flowage and vermilion. Minocqua is a puppet gov with Wal-Mart, Starbucks etc supply depots.
The best thing that can happen here in MInn is passing that boat trailer exotic dancer/species sticker, the closest thing we will have to a nuclear deterrent.


Edited by happy hooker 2/20/2015 7:06 PM
kevin cochran
Posted 2/21/2015 10:08 AM (#755278 - in reply to #754034)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




Posts: 374


Location: Bemidji
I started fishing hard in 2000. I got to see the transition of the fisheries. I moved up north and concentrated my angling on lakes that were virtually untouched. The fish were allowed to grow super sized without being pressured. The game was easier back then on stocked waters. Multiple 50in days werent uncommon. I saw an increase of fishing pressure along with a decrease in encounters with large females over that last 5 years. Low density stocking, escapement issues, spawning suppression, big females being kept, are a few contributing factors. This is on one stocked lake that I fish.
I still catch fish of all sizes from natural waters. I have seen an increase of size structure as well. The numbers are higher on the two natural lakes that I fish. Northern MN has big fish and always will. I live and fish in an area that has options and over the years I have had to adapt my game plan. I am fortunate to have lots of options and some that are off the radar as well.
sworrall
Posted 2/21/2015 10:11 AM (#755279 - in reply to #755185)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
happy hooker - 2/20/2015 6:38 PM

Going off the original title

Minnesota is damm tough!!! High taxes and sub zero weather hardin ya, we cold take on north/south Dakota ad iowa all at once.
Wisconsin however by recent estimates has us beat by about 400 thousand.but we do have the st Croix has a natural barricade and a invading force should have a 3 to 1 ratio to expect success.
Illinois is the big threat!! They are an aggressor. Appeasement in the form of paying their toll booths when we pass through isn't enough. They have learned from Rommel that blitzkrieg tactics to the hotbite bandwagon is the only strategy look at the past battle fronts of Chippewa flowage and vermilion. Minocqua is a puppet gov with Wal-Mart, Starbucks etc supply depots.
The best thing that can happen here in MInn is passing that boat trailer exotic dancer/species sticker, the closest thing we will have to a nuclear deterrent.


That there is really funny.
Tamarack
Posted 3/3/2015 1:05 AM (#756995 - in reply to #754034)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




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Last year was an outliar year for Lake of the Woods. Highest water in 70 years and pretty windy conditions made for tough fishing, but most of my Musky customers still left happy. Our best year since taking over the camp with 24 over 50". And lots of 42-48" fish.
Flambeauski
Posted 3/3/2015 8:44 AM (#757025 - in reply to #755185)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




Posts: 4343


Location: Smith Creek
happy hooker - 2/20/2015 6:38 PM

Going off the original title

Minnesota is damm tough!!! High taxes and sub zero weather hardin ya, we cold take on north/south Dakota ad iowa all at once.
Wisconsin however by recent estimates has us beat by about 400 thousand.but we do have the st Croix has a natural barricade and a invading force should have a 3 to 1 ratio to expect success.
Illinois is the big threat!! They are an aggressor. Appeasement in the form of paying their toll booths when we pass through isn't enough. They have learned from Rommel that blitzkrieg tactics to the hotbite bandwagon is the only strategy look at the past battle fronts of Chippewa flowage and vermilion. Minocqua is a puppet gov with Wal-Mart, Starbucks etc supply depots.
The best thing that can happen here in MInn is passing that boat trailer exotic dancer/species sticker, the closest thing we will have to a nuclear deterrent.


An alliance has already been formed. IL will come in from the south and WI from the north, the pinscer will be on St. Cloud, and the metro will surrounded. There is a possibility of another Stalingrad there, but we'll cross that bridge in due time.
The possibility of IA coming to your aid and hitting the flank of the attacking IL hordes has been considered, but the mainly Norwegian population is more interested in defense than offense.
Soon the People's Republic of Minnesota will be a memory.
jonnysled
Posted 3/3/2015 9:13 AM (#757028 - in reply to #757025)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
will you attempt to overtake The Mall of Mogadishu?
Flambeauski
Posted 3/3/2015 9:53 AM (#757033 - in reply to #754034)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




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Location: Smith Creek
The Mall has little strategic value, although I can envision some of the southern and western allies attempting a counter offensive to open a corridor to it so their wives and kids can go shopping for the weekend.
Masqui-ninja
Posted 3/3/2015 11:10 AM (#757045 - in reply to #757033)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





Posts: 1199


Location: Walker, MN
Haha, sounds like the invasive species are all above the bilge

Edited by Masqui-ninja 3/3/2015 11:25 AM
happy hooker
Posted 3/4/2015 9:44 AM (#757231 - in reply to #757045)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?




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How do we inter all the transplanted cheeseheads for internal security??? We'd be able to.buy paint thinner again and the perch population would rebound but we'd have to stop work on the stadium and turn the hole in the ground into a reprogramming camp.
Cfollow
Posted 3/6/2015 2:12 PM (#757831 - in reply to #757231)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?


Back to the original question. Just watched this week's Keyes Outdoors episode that took place on West Battle Lake. Mike was fishing with Brad Ruh and Jason Hammernick and they put exactly 4 fish in the net in three full days of fishing in mid October. So there you have it, if you take a fully guided trip with one of the top ten musky fisherman in the world you might be able to put one fish in the net per day. Enjoy!!
P.S. Jason caught 3 of those 4 fish from the back of the boat.
Again, good luck.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 3/6/2015 2:21 PM (#757833 - in reply to #757831)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





Posts: 2275


Location: Chisholm, MN
Cfollow - 3/6/2015 2:12 PM

Back to the original question. Just watched this week's Keyes Outdoors episode that took place on West Battle Lake. Mike was fishing with Brad Ruh and Jason Hammernick and they put exactly 4 fish in the net in three full days of fishing in mid October. So there you have it, if you take a fully guided trip with one of the top ten musky fisherman in the world you might be able to put one fish in the net per day. Enjoy!!
P.S. Jason caught 3 of those 4 fish from the back of the boat.
Again, good luck.


Haha! That's about right!
Corso Mike
Posted 3/6/2015 5:03 PM (#757878 - in reply to #754034)
Subject: RE: How tough is MN Now?




Posts: 182


WHINERS! You should have been fishing these things during the early 80's. It was better a few years ago but it is leaps and bounds above what it was at one time.
dami0101
Posted 3/9/2015 8:49 PM (#758513 - in reply to #757831)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





Posts: 750


Location: Minneapolis, MN
Cfollow - 3/6/2015 2:12 PM

Back to the original question. Just watched this week's Keyes Outdoors episode that took place on West Battle Lake. Mike was fishing with Brad Ruh and Jason Hammernick and they put exactly 4 fish in the net in three full days of fishing in mid October. So there you have it, if you take a fully guided trip with one of the top ten musky fisherman in the world you might be able to put one fish in the net per day. Enjoy!!
P.S. Jason caught 3 of those 4 fish from the back of the boat.
Again, good luck.


You forgot to mention that they hooked up on and lost a lot more fish.
Mojo1269
Posted 3/9/2015 9:19 PM (#758520 - in reply to #757878)
Subject: RE: How tough is MN Now?





Posts: 745


Corso Mike - 3/6/2015 5:03 PM

WHINERS! You should have been fishing these things during the early 80's. It was better a few years ago but it is leaps and bounds above what it was at one time.


What ^^^^^^he said....
cave run legend
Posted 3/9/2015 9:27 PM (#758522 - in reply to #758520)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





Posts: 2097


They also all threw the same style of baits everyday. Maybe could have changed some things up?
jchiggins
Posted 3/9/2015 9:41 PM (#758525 - in reply to #758520)
Subject: RE: How tough is MN Now?




Posts: 1759


Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn
Mojo1269 - 3/9/2015 9:19 PM

Corso Mike - 3/6/2015 5:03 PM

WHINERS! You should have been fishing these things during the early 80's. It was better a few years ago but it is leaps and bounds above what it was at one time.


What ^^^^^^he said....
x3
Cfollow
Posted 3/10/2015 7:23 AM (#758562 - in reply to #758513)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?


dami0101 - 3/9/2015 8:49 PM

Cfollow - 3/6/2015 2:12 PM

Back to the original question. Just watched this week's Keyes Outdoors episode that took place on West Battle Lake. Mike was fishing with Brad Ruh and Jason Hammernick and they put exactly 4 fish in the net in three full days of fishing in mid October. So there you have it, if you take a fully guided trip with one of the top ten musky fisherman in the world you might be able to put one fish in the net per day. Enjoy!!
P.S. Jason caught 3 of those 4 fish from the back of the boat.
Again, good luck.


You forgot to mention that they hooked up on and lost a lot more fish.


" a lot more fish" you mean like less than four!! The point that the guide in the back of the boat was getting most all the strikes is also a crucially important point!
dami0101
Posted 3/10/2015 8:41 AM (#758572 - in reply to #758562)
Subject: Re: How tough is MN Now?





Posts: 750


Location: Minneapolis, MN
Cfollow - 3/10/2015 7:23 AM

dami0101 - 3/9/2015 8:49 PM

Cfollow - 3/6/2015 2:12 PM

Back to the original question. Just watched this week's Keyes Outdoors episode that took place on West Battle Lake. Mike was fishing with Brad Ruh and Jason Hammernick and they put exactly 4 fish in the net in three full days of fishing in mid October. So there you have it, if you take a fully guided trip with one of the top ten musky fisherman in the world you might be able to put one fish in the net per day. Enjoy!!
P.S. Jason caught 3 of those 4 fish from the back of the boat.
Again, good luck.


You forgot to mention that they hooked up on and lost a lot more fish.


" a lot more fish" you mean like less than four!! The point that the guide in the back of the boat was getting most all the strikes is also a crucially important point!


Based upon what they say in the episode, I come up with 3 follows and 7-8 strikes that they were unable to capitalize on. Also, there is no indication that they tried different tactics. Also, the final day was when they saw most of their action so who knows what it would had been like if they had stuck around another day or two.
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