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GIERAT
Posted 1/31/2015 7:59 AM (#751136)
Subject: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 43


Location: Chicago
Wow, my brother tipped me about a great knot used by tuna fisherman...The San Diego Jam knot! Tied one yesterday and my jaw dropped. It locks down and will not budge. I've never seen a knot like it. Great on the all the super braids out there.
Incredible.
mnmusky
Posted 1/31/2015 8:33 AM (#751140 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!




try a palomar, strongest knot there is.
Will Schultz
Posted 1/31/2015 8:58 AM (#751143 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
The San Diego jam knot lost to the Palomar in the 2008 knot wars.
Jeff78
Posted 1/31/2015 9:02 AM (#751144 - in reply to #751140)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Posts: 1660


Location: central Wisconsin
Buchers power knot is the only one I use for my musky setups.

I use a palomar on my walleye rigs.
Propster
Posted 1/31/2015 9:33 AM (#751148 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 1901


Location: MN
And the Palomar lost to the super uni knot
PIKEMASTER
Posted 1/31/2015 10:26 AM (#751156 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





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Propster
Posted 1/31/2015 11:28 AM (#751167 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 1901


Location: MN
That's the one PM. I knew it as the super uni knot long before I'd seen it entered as the Fishin Fool knot on knot wars.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 1/31/2015 11:39 AM (#751169 - in reply to #751167)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Propster - 1/31/2015 11:28 AM

That's the one PM. I knew it as the super uni knot long before I'd seen it entered as the Fishin Fool knot on knot wars.

Love that knot for Braid
So easy to tie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
horsehunter
Posted 1/31/2015 12:05 PM (#751173 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!




Location: Eastern Ontario
None of my fish are ever over 54 inches, so the palomar is enough and easy with my old eyes and fingers

Edited by horsehunter 1/31/2015 12:06 PM
ToddM
Posted 1/31/2015 12:08 PM (#751174 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Posts: 20173


Location: oswego, il
My knot can beat up your knot! Thanks for sharing.
heckster
Posted 1/31/2015 12:26 PM (#751178 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: RE: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 91


used the palomar over 45 yrs, never had a failure!
wavridr
Posted 1/31/2015 12:59 PM (#751183 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: RE: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 296


Location: Not where I want to be!
Bucher Power Knot never failed me!  
Jeremy
Posted 1/31/2015 2:36 PM (#751199 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 1126


Location: Minnesota.
Uni, tied with a loop instead of single line. Slide down to tighten and trim, ending up with 3 tag ends. Never failed me either and simple.

A friend uses the Jack Crawford and swears by it. I'd like to know if it was profiled in that "knot wars" deally...I'm not familiar with that test.
Beaver
Posted 1/31/2015 3:21 PM (#751204 - in reply to #751199)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Posts: 4266


I use a Uni-Knot for almost everything, so I tried doubling the line through the eye of a swivel on a leader and then tying a Uni-Knot with the lines doubled. Now I use a double Uni-Knot for every braid and superline connection that I make. Try it sometime. If you use a Uni-Knot, double up the line and tie it. You have one extra line to cut at the end, but the extra bulk really helps to lock that knot down. I've never seen anything about a knot like that, so I guess that I invented the Double Uni-Knot.
Zinox
Posted 1/31/2015 3:29 PM (#751206 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 1100


I use a Sebille knot, tied to the mono/FC leader.
Jeremy
Posted 1/31/2015 4:19 PM (#751221 - in reply to #751204)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 1126


Location: Minnesota.
Beaver - 1/31/2015 3:21 PM

I've never seen anything about a knot like that, so I guess that I invented the Double Uni-Knot.


Beav., read the post above you...*g*

Go ahead, I'll letch'a say you "invented" it but I've been using it for years...*winkers*

J.
esox911
Posted 1/31/2015 4:56 PM (#751228 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 556


PALOMAR by far the easiest knot to tie--and incredibly strong. If that knot fails on a big fish--you were probably going to lose it anyway.
Dirt Esox
Posted 1/31/2015 7:13 PM (#751252 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 457


Location: Minneconia
I agree the San Diego Jam is the best knot ever...more versatile than the Palomar in my opinion. I use the Palomar with my musky braid as its a quicker tie and braid is forgiving as far as knot tying goes, but any mono or fluorocarbon gets the SDJ.

Edited by Dirt Esox 1/31/2015 7:15 PM
Lucky Craft Man
Posted 1/31/2015 7:17 PM (#751253 - in reply to #751183)
Subject: RE: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 242


wavridr - 1/31/2015 12:59 PM

Bucher Power Knot never failed me!  


x2
North of 8
Posted 2/1/2015 7:33 AM (#751288 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: RE: Best knot EVER!




I use the fishing fool as well. For whatever reason, I find it easy to tie and when the North American Fisherman show put it to the test, it was the strongest knot with braid.
muskyrat
Posted 2/1/2015 8:27 AM (#751293 - in reply to #751288)
Subject: RE: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 455


Funny what you can learn from the Tuna guys. That's how learned about Flouro back in 1996.
Reggie54
Posted 2/1/2015 11:31 AM (#751326 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: RE: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 98


I've tried quite a few and the Berkley braid is my favorite. Easy and super strong, hasn't failed me yet.
Sidejack
Posted 2/1/2015 4:22 PM (#751396 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Posts: 1077


Location: Anoka
What about the double palomar?
Beaver
Posted 2/1/2015 8:50 PM (#751431 - in reply to #751221)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Posts: 4266


Jeremy, that's because I taught it to you the first time I came to Vermillion. :-0
I started tying it after I tried it because some saltwater guys were tying knots and talking about the importance of building bulk in a knot.
AND...I never read your post or I wouldn't have written mine. I must have been typing mine while you were posting yours.

Edited by Beaver 2/1/2015 8:55 PM
Masqui-ninja
Posted 2/1/2015 8:52 PM (#751432 - in reply to #751396)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Posts: 1193


Location: Walker, MN
The palomar is a double line knot but I think it's weakness is that it can slip a bit. I tie a palomar and then finish it with apposing half hitches. Some times this tag unravels but usually not.
Sidejack
Posted 2/1/2015 10:01 PM (#751445 - in reply to #751432)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Posts: 1077


Location: Anoka
Masqui-ninja - 2/1/2015 8:52 PM
The palomar is a double line knot but I think it's weakness is that it can slip a bit.


That's why the braid version is the double P. (same as the regular but you go through the line loop twice instead of once).

Been usin it since the 80's and thought it was the gold standard.
~shrug~
sarwanov
Posted 2/2/2015 1:19 AM (#751463 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: RE: Best knot EVER!




Posts: 4


Its really incredible
brianT
Posted 2/2/2015 8:27 AM (#751485 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Posts: 427


Location: Planet Meltdown
The improved reverse clinch knot is still the strongest line to lure knot tested on Knot Wars. I use a Fish-n-fool 99% of the time and the double Uni for line to line. Both are easy to tie and I've never had a failure.
sworrall
Posted 7/22/2016 9:24 AM (#824515 - in reply to #751485)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Posts: 32761


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
This thread had a graphic up that showed the Trilene knot. We received a demand today to immediately remove the graphic, as it's copyrighted by an outfit that sells knot cards out West. The graphic in question comes up in searches, so beware not to ever post any graphic or post any information found in a search about fishing line knots here from proknot.com. The owner didn't contact us and ask for us to provide a link to his site for access to the graphic (which we would have happily done), he had his off shore attorney send us a legal communication threatening to have our website blocked if we didn't immediately remove the offending graphic. We did, and apologized.

Since the Trilene knot is a Berkley branded knot and Berkley Fishing is an OFM partner, we'll use the Berkley graphic from this time forward. Not only that, it's free!

Here's some resources to use:
www.catchsnook.com
www.animatedknots.com
http://www.berkley-fishing.com/berkley/?q=Knots



dtaijo174
Posted 7/22/2016 9:49 AM (#824519 - in reply to #751136)
Subject: Re: Best knot EVER!





Posts: 1169


Location: New Hope MN
I looked up the results of knot wars 2010. (just do a google search)
The Improved Reverse Clinch was #1 for Braid (9.2% stronger than Palomar). I have no idea how to tie that one...
And to settle the debate, the San Diego Jam did beat out the Palomar in all categories(mono, braid, fluro), but just barely.
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