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Muskie Fishing -> Lures,Tackle, and Equipment -> Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?
 
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Dan111
Posted 12/1/2017 9:47 PM (#885648)
Subject: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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Anyone use this reel for bigger blades ?
Anyone use this combo specifically?
Would this reel be too heavy for the st croix big nasty?

Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor
Gear ratio:H 6:1 L:3:1
Drag: strike 28/full 38
IPT: H 46/L 22
Weight: 24oz
Zinox
Posted 12/2/2017 1:50 AM (#885658 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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I have the Avet SX Raptor and have used it a bit for rubber in the past, but after i got my tranx 500HG or revo beast HS i rarely use it any more.For just straight retrieve large blades its awesome.

Basically If you just want to straight retrieve the baits it a great reel, the pull pause Technic is a bit more difficult, wo level wind, and the lack of an IAR bearing. Im not saying it is impossible, i just wouldn't do it with the alternatives out there.
mcnewbski
Posted 12/2/2017 12:41 PM (#885681 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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I have used this combo specifically, for the past 3 or 4 years. (Not the Raptor model, but the regular JX 6/3 MC model - other than drag, specs you posted look the same.)

It has worked great for me, for big blades only. However, I wish I had an Avet model that was smaller and had a IPT of about about 35. The JX is big and heavy, and I personally find the IPT too high for my taste (maybe I'm just too old). I use it dramatically underspooled, pulling something like 33-36 IPT. This means that the low speed setting is useless to me. The way I use it, much of the reel's capabilities are wasted. That said, fully spooled it can make those 10s scream.

I would trade it for a single speed MXJ or SXJ.

I find casting easy but have heard and am convinced that the MC cast control is critical.

Hope that helps.

Dan111
Posted 12/2/2017 1:20 PM (#885683 - in reply to #885681)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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Yeah i was thinking about that 46ipt. It would either be dynamite or just too much, possibly too much to even keep the bait submerged lol. Also the 6:1 ratio. I know its a huge spool but if im purchasing this reel i want it to make retrieving even supermodels effortless. I currently use a 61 toro beast (6:1) for 10s. It works well at 34ipt but is a bit of a workout. Would i experience the same on this particular avet?
Zinox
Posted 12/2/2017 1:55 PM (#885685 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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Super models is not going to be effortless, unless you have low IPT, or super long power handle. :P

But i will say that my SX not filled all the way to the top is my preferred reel for large blades, only reason it doesn't get mutch use is that i don't spend enough time with the large blade blades, and prefer the other reels on the rod, as i dont bring a designated rod for blades, if i did, it would be the SX raptor that was on that rod.
Dan111
Posted 12/2/2017 2:37 PM (#885691 - in reply to #885685)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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I guess the only way to find out if to get one and try it out.
mcnewbski
Posted 12/2/2017 11:24 PM (#885747 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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The JX set at the slow setting (22 IPT) makes pulling in #13 blades pretty much effortless. Slow moving though. Sending you a PM.
Beastly Backlash
Posted 12/6/2017 7:20 PM (#886178 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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I think you would be better served with the Avet MXJ 5.8MC. Take a look at the G2 series, 20lbs max drag, 12lbs at strike, which should be more then enough drag to set the hook hard at half the price of the Raptor.

Still, if you really want the Raptor, they are excellent reels and worth buying if you want that extra drag.

But, stick with the MX sizes. There is a ton of cranking power in these reels.
Dan111
Posted 12/6/2017 8:29 PM (#886188 - in reply to #886178)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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Beastly Backlash - 12/6/2017 7:20 PM

I think you would be better served with the Avet MXJ 5.8MC. Take a look at the G2 series, 20lbs max drag, 12lbs at strike, which should be more then enough drag to set the hook hard at half the price of the Raptor.

Still, if you really want the Raptor, they are excellent reels and worth buying if you want that extra drag.

But, stick with the MX sizes. There is a ton of cranking power in these reels.


Yeah now im looking at the mxj 6/4 raptor. Just hope the 6.3:1 ratio is powerful enough on this reel for the big blades
Zinox
Posted 12/7/2017 7:28 AM (#886229 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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What are you referring to with "powerful enough" big blades and high IPT is never going to be easy, but with the long handle on the Avet reels, i wouldn't worry about being "under powered"
Dan111
Posted 12/7/2017 11:56 AM (#886285 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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by powerful enough i mean cranking power, how easily i can turn the handle
14ledo81
Posted 12/7/2017 2:50 PM (#886304 - in reply to #886285)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?





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Location: Ashland WI
Dan111 - 12/7/2017 11:56 AM

by powerful enough i mean cranking power, how easily i can turn the handle


That would be a "user" power issue.

How powerful are you?
Dan111
Posted 12/7/2017 4:02 PM (#886312 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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Not very powerful and very lazy, i dont like to work hard. so the easier it is to crank the better
14ledo81
Posted 12/7/2017 5:07 PM (#886320 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?





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Location: Ashland WI
Hah... You just described he vast majority of muskie fishermen.... Myself included.
Beastly Backlash
Posted 12/8/2017 11:00 PM (#886441 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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In all honesty, if I were you I would just get a star drag conventional for casting lures.

You will have no problems cranking in the biggest buck tails you can find with an Avet MXJ or JX, regardless of gear ratio, but do you really want to spend your time working the lever on every cast?

You can't beat the Avets for bait fishing of any kind, but fishing lures with a lever drag will get really old really quick.

Just something to think about before you decide to pull that trigger.
Zinox
Posted 12/9/2017 11:53 AM (#886474 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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After 20 minutes of use i never noticed the lever-drag operation again.
Dan111
Posted 12/9/2017 4:18 PM (#886503 - in reply to #885648)
Subject: Re: Avet JX 6/3 MC Raptor X Big Nasty ?




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seems like guys either love or hate the lever drag. apparently lever drag shines on boat side hits, but doesn’t do so good in shallow cover. Only reason i can think it doesn’t do good in shallow cover is because the delay it takes to engage the reel causes your bait to sink into the weeds, snags etc.
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