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| Hello! I need some help. I am doing research for a new book and I am trying to get information re: tournament fishing in the mid 1960's. Specifically, I need to know how fish were weighed back then. All the fishermen I knew from back in the day have all passed on to the other side and the fishermen of today I know either never entered tournaments/contests or didn't start fishing until their later years. They keep talking about boga grips. Were boga grips how they weighed fish back then also? I sure would appreciate any help you guys can give me.
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Location: St. Lawrence River | A boga grip is a modern device of this current era, designed to hold a fish by clasping its mouth with a claw like mechanism. I would guess no, they did not use them in the 1960's.. |
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Location: oswego, il | Fish were weighed in the 60's on a scale after they were bonked and brought in. |
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Location: midwest | In the 60's? Fish were gaffed, clubbed and or shot and brought in and weighed on meat scales usually at a local store for fishing contests. We've made quite a bit of progress since that point. Now were down to worrying if a wet bump board is harming fish. |
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Location: Stevens Point, Wi. | Anyone remember the DE-LIAR? Small spring scale with an extremely small hook to attach to the fish; about as accurate as a follows length guess.
Not many live wells in boats back then, most every thing went on stringers, came to shore floating and pale. |
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| Yep, I remember the de liar also trolling for northern and putting them on the stringer over the side all day by the time we got back they were par boiled in July . A real joy to try and clean. |
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| Back in the mid 1960s, my family rented a cabin in Oneida County and they had a brass scale that they hung from a tree branch if you caught a muskie, big northern, etc. You hung it on the scale and posed for a picture. A few years later I got one from a garage sale and used it to weigh the big carp we caught and released on the Wis. River as teenagers. Using weights from my set, I tested it and it was pretty accurate. Only problem was that it only went to fifty pounds and we caught a couple that maxed it out. They were full of bean waste from the canning factory so that probably added a lot of weight.
May seem strange today, but back then the canning factory in Wis. Rapids dumped their bean waste (stems, ends, etc.) directly into the river via a big concrete pipe. The carp would come in to feed on it but for some reason would also eat a hook with a couple kernels of canned corn on it. |
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| Did they acually eat the big ones? |
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Location: E. Tenn | Also in Oneida Co....at a little Mom n Pop place, fish were caught, strung up, photographed, weighed, measured, (by the most convenient means) scaled gutted ( or filleted), and the heads of the largest were nailed to a tree next to the cleaning station.
Just finished up a morning of chunkin' and windin', and a late breakfast at the same place as a matter of fact..
The sporting goods store in Eagle River, and Three Lakes ( the latter long extinct) would sponser a weekly contest, and we'd stare in awe st the carcasses of the prize winning musky, northern, walleye, and bass in an icebox in front of the stores.
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| The freezers displaying large fish at bait stores started to disapear in the mid-1980s when catch and release took hold. Prior to that it was great marketing to get a lot of fishing and non-fishing people to visit. Most big fish were killed by the fishernan and broight to the store to display.
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| 39 degrees - 9/15/2017 10:50 AM
The freezers displaying large fish at bait stores started to disapear in the mid-1980s when catch and release took hold. Prior to that it was great marketing to get a lot of fishing and non-fishing people to visit. Most big fish were killed by the fishernan and broight to the store to display.
Yep, in the late 1950s and early 1960s, my aunt and uncle would take me to their cottage in the Harrison Hills. Sometimes when the weather was bad, we would drive into Eagle River and a must stop was a store with the glass topped freezer outside and big muskies inside it. Always people stopping to look, even in the rain. And as to whether they ate the big muskies, heck yes they did. I had some that was baked, with some seasoning and it was very good.
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | sporting goods store at the bridge in tomahawk had one of those glass boxes also.. late 70's early 80's. remember seeing some real jumbos stuffed into that thing. |
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| Reeds in Walker Mn used to have one of those freezers outside by the front door. Always had a big pike or Muskie in it. |
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| JakeStCroixSkis - 9/15/2017 10:00 AM
A boga grip is a modern device of this current era, designed to hold a fish by clasping its mouth with a claw like mechanism. I would guess no, they did not use them in the 1960's..
BTW not a good way to weigh musky's (esox in general) can result in distended jaw. |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Always had to stop in Phillips and Park Falls to look in the glass top freezers to see what was there in the 50's and 60's. Sadly, a highlight of the trip! |
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Location: oswego, il | Are there any freezer shows left? I know there was one in boulder junction still going a decade or so ago. |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | ToddM - 9/15/2017 7:05 PM
Are there any freezer shows left? I know there was one in boulder junction still going a decade or so ago.
i remember that one.. at that sporting goods store right in the middle of town. i know about 7 years ago they still had it. could see it from the road actually. not sure if it was still plugged in though. |
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Location: Elroy, Wisconsin | I was president of The Wisconsin Musky Club in the 70's. Not many fish were caught back then. A spring outing on Vieux Dessert would produce 1 to 3 muskies for 50 fishermen. This went on for several years. Most of the guys and gals who fished a lot released small muskies, big ones were always kept.
As far as I know they were all consumed and they were good to. Times have changed for the better. I havn't kept a muskie in twenty five years ( accept a 51 I had mounted) and we catch so many more now. Also there are so many more places to fish muskies now. The Wisconsin River was not fishable, stunk of sulfite. There were far fewer musky fishermen then, some names I remember are: Dave and Barb Snoddy, Bill Hoeft, Dick Moore, Larry Stolz, Al Nemmetz, Deed Bergstrom,Al Tumas,. Kennedy father and son, Chuck Gustafson, Bob Vandervelden, Jerry Sobiak, The Lapps, and so many more , some are now gone.
I had the very great honor of fishing with Art Oehmcke, the father of musky propagation in Wisconsin. Fishing was tough, but we had just as much fun with much smaller fish. The golden age is now.
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Location: Tomahawk,Wis | The 2 bait shops in Tomahawk still have the coolers... |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | wallygator - 9/15/2017 9:41 PM
The 2 bait shops in Tomahawk still have the coolers...
Chucks was at the bridge i think. |
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| I don't remember the coolers or the freezers, but that's good stuff. I remember vacations on Sugar Camp Lake and Maiden Lake. Boy, I miss those days.
Did anybody enter any tournaments back in the mid '60's? I'm assuming that they had the same rules back then, a limit, say three, and take the best out of three? A time limit. How did they know when weighing the fish, which belonged to which? Were they tagged?
My book is total fiction and is for the middle reader. But I don't want to make stuff up, and feed kids a bunch of misinformation. I want to be as accurate and truthful as I possibly can.
Thanks for all your help. |
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| The first time I fished Leech Lake was in 1987 and Reeds still had the glass top freezer then, it held a 35lb purebred and a 26 lb tiger as I recall, I think I even took a photo that I likely still have somewhere. Very impressive sight to a muskie newbe, but glad the practice has disappeared. |
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Location: Tomahawk,Wis | Yes you have Chucks and Aquatic Arts across from each other |
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