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| Just ran across this. Looks like there are some new trailer laws to try and keep the invasive species from spreading rapidly. Also looks like these laws apply to EVERYONE fishing Minnesota. If you come to Minnesota to fish, you will need to go thru training and get this sticker on. http://trailers.mndnr.gov/ Just another hoop to jump through to get to the water.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Yep. Been covered already. |
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| "I'm just traveling through Minnesota from another state with my boat and trailer. Do I still need a decal?"
"Yes, Minnesota law states that anyone transporting watercraft or water-related equipment in Minnesota needs to complete training and display the decal on their trailer."
Oh yeah, I'm just traveling through and I'm going to take a course and pay for a decal just to travel through MN. OR WHAT?
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| Why wouldn't any of the funds get put back into the DNR for research purposes to fix the problem? |
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Location: Albertville, Minnesota | Thanks Brett for posting. First I've seen of this. I'll keep my initial opinion about this to myself.
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Iowa here I come......so if I'm going to Devils Lake or LOW I need to stop in Mn to take a trailer class? "Hello" what Idiot is in charge of that change? Whats the next thing they'll have you doing when flying and stopping at the hub in Mini, you'll need to get a colonoscopy. |
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| Does anyone really think that if they are traveling thru MN to get to the LOW or Devils Lake that will be stopped and ticketed for failure to have a stamp or sticker on their boat trailer? My guess is even if the police know about this law they will not take the time to enforce it. |
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Location: MN | I will be selling forged trailer stickers so we don't have to take this silly class. $10 a pop. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Pepper - 10/1/2014 4:14 PM
Does anyone really think that if they are traveling thru MN to get to the LOW or Devils Lake that will be stopped and ticketed for failure to have a stamp or sticker on their boat trailer? My guess is even if the police know about this law they will not take the time to enforce it.
Yeah, don't panic here guys. I realize it sounds like a huge hassle, but it will become the norm. This is meant to help the spread of the nasty stuff. It got here somehow, let's try and slow the spread. Look what it's already done to the lakes. ANYTHING I can do to help will gladly get done. |
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| Just was thinking, folks from Minnesota will be pulling into Wisconsin with a few trailers tomorrow afternoon. I wonder if they've checked to see if any running backs may be hitch hiking? Probably nothing dangerous enough to require spraying! |
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Location: Albertville, Minnesota | Pepper - 10/1/2014 4:14 PM
" Does anyone really think that if they are traveling thru MN to get to the LOW or Devils Lake that will be stopped and ticketed for failure to have a stamp or sticker on their boat trailer? My guess is even if the police know about this law they will not take the time to enforce it."
Answer to your question - No. However, don't want to get in a peeing match over this issue, but be aware of the conservation officers at the border stations coming back from Canada. Not only will they be checking skin on your walleyes, but I'm sure they will be looking for this awesome new sticker confirming you know how to unscrew your plug or drain your livewell. Just saying.
I don't know why MN went away with getting a sticker when you got checked by an AIS inspector during random landing checks. It was free and you could ask questions with the inspector.
My question is, what is next?
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Location: The desert | Nershi - 10/1/2014 4:18 PM
I will be selling forged trailer stickers so we don't have to take this silly class. $10 a pop.
The real sticker is cheaper. |
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Location: Cave Run Lake KY. | sworrall - 9/30/2014 11:08 PM
Yep. Been covered already. like Sworrall said it has already been covered back to about 2 weeks to find everything you need to know. |
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| I can see them stopping people for not having a sticker, but if you're headed up to Canada, what are they going to do? You can't be forced to take a class or pay for a sticker just to drive through one state to go fish somewhere else. It's not like 10,000 anglers from IL, IN, and WI can drive around MN on their way to Canada.
I don't think the CO's are going to bother anyone either. If you've got WI tags on your boat, a passport that shows you live in WI, and WI plates on your truck, it's a pretty safe bet that when you're leaving Canada you're headed home to WI. |
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Let's face the real issue here, is it that there trying to teach the boaters or raise more funds for the state with another fee. How many of boats are registered in Minn? How many of us are traveling down the road with weeds or a livewell full of bait? There's more than enough information at any launch to cover this issue and if you don't get it than be prepared to get fined. That will learn you more than a sticker on a trailer. Give out a couple thousand $175.00 fines and the word will spread faster than the online video.
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"We need more taxes and fee's cause we're all making more money".
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Location: Elk River, MN | Yeah, it's another pain in the butt or some hoop we have to jump through. I don't think the state will be pulling people over on the highways checking for stickers, it'll be those pulling in and out of lakes. First year it will be a slap on the hand and the next year fines will be issued.
For as much as we all invest and go through to fish, taking a few minutes during the off season and a few bucks to get "certified" really isn't going to break anyone. I truly think it's an awareness issue like Netman said, and i'm sure many others have.
Even with this plan, those who don't care will continue to not follow rules/guidelines and cause the problems
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | Pointerpride102 - 10/1/2014 5:28 PM
Nershi - 10/1/2014 4:18 PM
I will be selling forged trailer stickers so we don't have to take this silly class. $10 a pop.
The real sticker is cheaper.
"All of the training fees go directly to the company that is developing and supporting the course in order to cover the cost of running the course. No funds come to the DNR through this program."
PP - Is the company handling this for the State of Minnisota your new "garage business"? Just kidding, I know you're a big supporter of protecting our resourses from invasive species. Did you review the proposed training course? Why would nothing go to the MN DNR? Someone literally missed the boat on this one!
Someone is also going to make some big bucks, it can't cost that much for the decal and the envelope and the stamp, e.g., once they get the website setup. Is the website setup and operation on Minnisota's dime too....?
However, Minnesota lakes do benefit by raising awareness of the invasive species. I think all states benefit from this, including the Canadian Provences.
What's the penalty, if you have the sticker, and are busted w/invasives by the MN DNR or an law enforcement officer? It should be stiff!
Are all the law enforcement officers required to take the invasive species course as part of their training? That would be a good thing too.....
To bad the Great Lakes States and St. Lawrence River States didn't do the same thing for the commercial shipping industry, including requiring inspection of bilge water to ensure its salt water before entering the St. Lawrence River...
LOL- yes, I'll get the decal! However, all of us should be doing our part to protect the waters we fish automatically from invasive hitchhikers, its common sense.
Actually, I applaud Minnisota for doing this on a proactive basis, e.g., requiring all boats traveling in the state to have the decal. Is there a reciprcol agrrement with other states who have similar requirements. If not, some boat trailers will be covered in decals.
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Netman - 10/1/2014 3:14 PM
Iowa here I come......so if I'm going to Devils Lake or LOW I need to stop in Mn to take a trailer class? "Hello" what Idiot is in charge of that change? Whats the next thing they'll have you doing when flying and stopping at the hub in Mini, you'll need to get a colonoscopy.
No you don't need to stop in MN to take the class, you take it online before you drive through MN, pay your $5, and then don't worry about it for 3 years. I'm not saying I agree with the idea of forcing people who are just driving through to do this, but I guess their thought is that they probably don't really have a way to prove who is and is not just driving through. At the end of the day, it's not the end of the world.
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | esoxaddict - 10/1/2014 5:29 PM
I can see them stopping people for not having a sticker, but if you're headed up to Canada, what are they going to do? You can't be forced to take a class or pay for a sticker just to drive through one state to go fish somewhere else. It's not like 10,000 anglers from IL, IN, and WI can drive around MN on their way to Canada.
I don't think the CO's are going to bother anyone either. If you've got WI tags on your boat, a passport that shows you live in WI, and WI plates on your truck, it's a pretty safe bet that when you're leaving Canada you're headed home to WI.
Well technically you could enter through North Dakota. Maybe if everyone avoided MN and thus border crossing businesses took a hit, they wouldn't require it of those just passing through. |
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Location: The desert | Al,
I haven't been involved with the planning of this new requirement. There are mixed opinions about the program, but I'll lean toward the optimist side and hope that, if anything, it provides some clarification to "rumors" and "half-truths"that we run into from time to time.
People, in general, are guilty of filling in knowledge gaps with what they perceive should be the truth. That applies to most anything, not AIS specific. Often times those perceptions aren't necessarily based in reality. If anything comes from this new program, hopefully it is education. The enforcement folks I talk to are far more interested in education and awareness than writing tickets. Writing tickets galore doesn't solve much.
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Location: The desert | dami0101 - 10/2/2014 11:18 AM
esoxaddict - 10/1/2014 5:29 PM
I can see them stopping people for not having a sticker, but if you're headed up to Canada, what are they going to do? You can't be forced to take a class or pay for a sticker just to drive through one state to go fish somewhere else. It's not like 10,000 anglers from IL, IN, and WI can drive around MN on their way to Canada.
I don't think the CO's are going to bother anyone either. If you've got WI tags on your boat, a passport that shows you live in WI, and WI plates on your truck, it's a pretty safe bet that when you're leaving Canada you're headed home to WI.
Well technically you could enter through North Dakota. Maybe if everyone avoided MN and thus border crossing businesses took a hit, they wouldn't require it of those just passing through.
That's a lot of gas to save $1.67/year. |
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Again I'm not trying to make a big deal out of $5.00, it's just that Minn does it Wiscs. does it Ill does can you see where this is going!!! Now every 3 years you need to renew a sticker for the 5 states I fish in, for what? Worrall said it in the opening post, "IT's BEEN COVERED". Don't penalize us for something we already know! Fine the violators and stay out of my wallet. |
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Location: The desert | Netman - 10/2/2014 11:36 AM
Again I'm not trying to make a big deal out of $5.00, it's just that Minn does it Wiscs. does it Ill does can you see where this is going!!! Now every 3 years you need to renew a sticker for the 5 states I fish in, for what? Worrall said it in the opening post, "IT's BEEN COVERED". Don't penalize us for something we already know! Fine the violators and stay out of my wallet.
The "it's been covered" is referencing a different post on the subject.
$8.34/year if all 5 of the states you fish adopt this program (which I very seriously doubt).
We see plenty of out of state boaters who claim to know the laws, that are essentially clueless. Often times they get educated and fined. Now, with this program there will be less availability of the "I had no idea" excuse we hear on a near daily basis, and a ticket may be prosecuted with greater ease.
I fully understand your frustration. If anyone should be exempt from doing this, it should be me. But I'm not, and I don't have that expectation (if anything I hold myself to a higher standard as I should know what I'm doing). It's really a minuscule amount of money and I don't share your fear that 5 other states will be joining the program, in some states we'd welcome it because it would be more than their current effort level. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect solution at this time. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Pointerpride102 - 10/2/2014 12:26 PM
I fully understand your frustration.
Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect solution at this time.
Said every Vikings coach for the last 40 years. |
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| Does anyone have a link to do this class online that I might have missed. Also, what if you have multiple boats, can you request two stickers?
I think people should stop getting their undies in a bundle. From what I gather, this program is designed to educate people using waterways and to stop the spread of invasive species. Both good things in my book.. It's not like they are charging 100 bucks or something crazy.. With the cost of staffing, printing, webcosts, mailing, etc- it's not like they are making a fortune off you or anything.. They just want to protect their waterways and educate those that use it. I get that some are just driving through, but it is what it is.. I have (and am sure most of you have) peeed away a lot more money on a lot dumber stuff over the years.
EDIT: Sorry, saw link. Answered my own questions.
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Between the 3 states of Minn, Mich, and Wisc you 2.5 million boats regisitered. Just in Minn alone you have over 800,000. Do the math. How much of this money will go towards the problem? I see there's no solution and believe me, I would like there to be one.
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Location: The desert | The course is not up and running yet, though it is supposed to be by January 2015.
You can read the FAQs here: trailers.mndnr.gov
Extra stickers can be purchased after passing for an additional $2. |
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Location: The desert | What is AIS destruction?
Research is ongoing. Has been since the 80s.
Education has had an impact. |
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| Don't know... Chemicals? Seems they chemical the metro lakes for lakeshore home owners so they don't have to feel the weeds when they dip their toes in the water off the dock. I recently saw a full size billboard in Rogers on I94 advertising how killing weeds in the lake is great. Showed kids jumping off a floating trampoline into the lake having a good time. Research since the 80's and this paid Web class is as far as we have come? Hmmmm. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 'Research since the 80's and this paid Web class is as far as we have come? Hmmmm.'
Then supply us all with a workable solution. |
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Location: The desert | mnmusky - 10/2/2014 1:28 PM
Don't know... Chemicals? Seems they chemical the metro lakes for lakeshore home owners so they don't have to feel the weeds when they dip their toes in the water off the dock. I recently saw a full size billboard in Rogers on I94 advertising how killing weeds in the lake is great. Showed kids jumping off a floating trampoline into the lake having a good time. Research since the 80's and this paid Web class is as far as we have come? Hmmmm.
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| Ok..let's pass a law that all new boats have to have a built in hull /trailer decon. sprayer. Legacy boats will need a handheld version. Don't have one? The DNR does. They can charge $20 and a lecture. |
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Location: The desert | mnmusky - 10/2/2014 2:18 PM
Ok..let's pass a law that all new boats have to have a built in hull /trailer decon. sprayer. Legacy boats will need a handheld version. Don't have one? The DNR does. They can charge $20 and a lecture.
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| ^ Perhaps, but a Web class and extra $ doesn't either. curious of how many boaters don't know about AIS Already? you can't make and educate people to care.
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"This doesn't even make sense"
I hear you, the whole thing doesn't make sense to me either! If someone could give you a breakdown of where the money is going?
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Location: The desert | mnmusky - 10/2/2014 3:01 PM
^ Perhaps, but a Web class and extra $ doesn't either. curious of how many boaters don't know about AIS Already? you can't make and educate people to care.
Many more than you'd think. Or they plead ignorance. However, with this program that excuse doesn't hold much water. |
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| If you can't educate and make people care, how has catch and release and larger size limits managed to work? These always face resistance, but managed to overcome it. There will always be complaining and violators with CPR and these new AIS rules and regulations, but most outdoors folks tend to be open to education and progression. |
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| Again, you can't make or educate people to care. They have to take it upon themselves to care. Its the few that dont care that cause all this and not lack of education. There always has and will be people who dont take care.This sticker is simply a revenue generator. It will do nothing to slow or prevent the spread. As I guarantee the research will show. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about education but, education has been in place for years and has not prevented the spread. If they truly want to stop AIS, way more than education, stickers, fines is needed. What that is, I don't know. Perhaps the sticker money will find a solution. |
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Location: The desert | How do you know education hasn't prevented the spread? With no education, perhaps every lake in Minnesota would be infested. |
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| Nothing wrong in being educated. It just seems the way this is done is rather the wrong approach. If I lived in MN, I would be thinking of ways to get rid of those responsible for this act.
Of course, I sent an email to your dnr to express my concerns for merely wanting to travel through MN.
Sorry, I ever looked at this topic. It has an odor about it. |
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| The sticker money isn't 'finding a solution' the prevention is in education. Would you prefer gates at the launches? |
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| I'm pretty sure education is the best hope we've got. There will always be people who don't care and refuse to take the time to do their part. But I believe there are a vast number of people who simply have no idea what AIS is or does, or how these organisms spread from one area to another.
If one person pulls all the milfoil off their trailer before moving to another lake who otherwise wouldn't have, that's an infestation that will not happen. If one person learns to identify rusty crayfish and decides NOT to capture them and use them as bait somewhere else, that's an infestation that will not happen. If there no discussions about this, would any of US know about it?
How many of you are now emptying your livewells when you never used to?
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| It's a physical problem that requires physical action. Education/awareness is good but does not solve the physical problem. Here's a scenario; I did the Web training paid the $, heard all the ads on the radio about AIS and got my sticker. Decide to fish Tonka. I let my boat run a ground on a bed of milfoil and lather up the hull with all the AIS Tonka has to offer. I then decide to hit Waconia as the fishing reports are better. I pull the boat out, check it over and all appears good but neglect to check the starboard side that's loaded with AIS because I was distracted by another boater. Being a Tuesday morning, no DNR at any of the launches that day. I dump in and do that to ten other lakes. Oops. Didn't mean to do that, nor did the 200 other educated boaters that day around the state. Stupid silly scenario, but all too real. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Not if you are reasonably diligent as the law requires and in the scenario above, you would be begging a big ticket over here. The fine over here is quite hefty for ANY kind of weeds still on a boat, trailer, or motor on the highway. An Oneida County officer can and will issue the citation, it's a county ordinance and applies to everyone on the road, not just folks who live in Oneida County. I'm pretty darned careful, and perhaps would not be if the threat of a BIG fine wasn't there. If folks are educated and aware, and a fine is a real possibility, folks will pay more attention. I think MN just over-reached with the out-of-staters needing the sticker...there's no sticker or class for any of the conservation laws in fishing there...or in WI. But there is one heck of a fine if you break them, knowingly or not. Make the fine $385 a pop, issue a bunch of tickets, and BOOM, folks 'become aware'.
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Location: The desert | mnmusky - 10/2/2014 5:50 PM
^ well said Worrall and agree. How do the Oneida police enforce migrating pelicans with zebra muscles attached to them up there? Just curious.
Please find me one example of this.
The Wisconsin DNR has been doing a study of lakes with zero public access and lakes with public access. Any guesses as to which lakes became infested?
I'm not dismissing the possibility of this occurring, but research is saying it is not. Why are Canada and the Dakotas ZM free? Don't you think it would be in a lot more places if this were true? I do.
Migrating birds spend a great deal of time preening. Hanging weeds on a bird create drag and they aren't big fans of that. Any weeds attached to feet are likely to fall off during flight.
You're really making a case for why education is still needed.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | mnmusky - 10/2/2014 5:50 PM
^ well said Worrall and agree. How do the Oneida police enforce migrating pelicans with zebra muscles attached to them up there? Just curious.
First, no Pelicans here of any note, Second, that's just...well... |
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| mnmusky - 10/2/2014 5:50 PM
^ well said Worrall and agree. How do the Oneida police enforce migrating pelicans with zebra muscles attached to them up there? Just curious.
There is so much wrong with that question I don't even know how to respond... |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Guess I don't see this as much different tHan needing the proper I'd for a trip to Canada... Passport is what...$100 and must be renewed every 10 years? I wouldn't think twice on dropping that cash. $5 every 3 years to ensure I'm doing the right things, staying current on any new information/procedures that are out there...not going to let that be an issue either. I have to renew a teaching license, go through 125 clock hours of some sort of education time, then relearn about mental illness/cause/effect, a reading in the schools piece, write an essay and still pay $40... I do it because I have to.... Not because I want to, and do so willingly as it keeps me current.
Inconvenient? Sure...aren't they all? Take the test, pay the 1/4 of a double cow girl and your done with it. Skip the #3 meal at McDonald's and the price is covered. The only thing I would rather see in this is to have residents re-up at the time their boat registration comes due... One stop and done.
I'd suggest that for all watercraft in all states. Be a part of the registration process, and it covers.
Reality is we will never stop it fully, never catch everyon either, but if it slows the spread, it is worth it to me.
Off the pulpit now
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Guess I don't see this as much different tHan needing the proper I'd for a trip to Canada... Passport is what...$100 and must be renewed every 10 years? I wouldn't think twice on dropping that cash. $5 every 3 years to ensure I'm doing the right things, staying current on any new information/procedures that are out there...not going to let that be an issue either. I have to renew a teaching license, go through 125 clock hours of some sort of education time, then relearn about mental illness/cause/effect, a reading in the schools piece, write an essay and still pay $40... I do it because I have to.... Not because I want to, and do so willingly as it keeps me current.
Inconvenient? Sure...aren't they all? Take the test, pay the 1/4 of a double cow girl and your done with it. Skip the #3 meal at McDonald's and the price is covered. The only thing I would rather see in this is to have residents re-up at the time their boat registration comes due... One stop and done.
I'd suggest that for all watercraft in all states. Be a part of the registration process, and it covers.
Reality is we will never stop it fully, never catch everyon either, but if it slows the spread, it is worth it to me.
Off the pulpit now
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Location: Twin Cities, MN | First, don't count on nobody being at the boat launch on a week day, as when I pulled into a local TC metro lake last Monday, their was a MN DNR inspector waiting for me. I am not sure how long he stayed though, as I was the only person in the lot.
As a side note, I was nice enough to ask him if he wanted to see my boat plug out before I put it in which he thanked me for ....
I also saw that somebody got their boat pulled over by a random road side inspection stop and got a ticket here also. It will be interesting to see how that goes in court, as I seem to remember those are not constitutional for drunk driving, so it might be a bit tricky with random roadside boat inspections holding up unless they need to justify the 8 or so inspectors / officers time.
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Location: The desert | Pal - 10/3/2014 7:28 AM
First, don't count on nobody being at the boat launch on a week day, as when I pulled into a local TC metro lake last Monday, their was a MN DNR inspector waiting for me. I am not sure how long he stayed though, as I was the only person in the lot.
As a side note, I was nice enough to ask him if he wanted to see my boat plug out before I put it in which he thanked me for ....
I also saw that somebody got their boat pulled over by a random road side inspection stop and got a ticket here also. It will be interesting to see how that goes in court, as I seem to remember those are not constitutional for drunk driving, so it might be a bit tricky with random roadside boat inspections holding up unless they need to justify the 8 or so inspectors / officers time.
We clear all roadside checks with the county District Attorney. There are also tickets we can write that are close to impossible to fight.
We hear all the time that we have too many people at the checkpoint, but if we have two people there and 5 boats roll in, 3 of you are going to wait. Our goal is to get you out of there as quickly as possible. Keep in mind that all those people would be working that day anyway so there is no extra time being used. |
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Location: Twin Cities, MN | My main question is are random roadside checks constitutional ?
I thought they were not constitutional for use against drunk driving, so how could they be OK here unless you can see weeds on a boat before requiring someone stop ?
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Location: Mayville, WI | Pointerpride102 - 10/2/2014 6:14 PM
Please find me one example of this.
The Wisconsin DNR has been doing a study of lakes with zero public access and lakes with public access. Any guesses as to which lakes became infested?
It is interesting how AIS show up in man made ponds w/ no boating access - even those without fish. Golf course ponds, stormwater, etc., places where you'd never expect it. How? That's unknown...
Education is a big part of it & as pointer said, this will give them no excuse of "not knowing." Though, for some people they just won't care. They already ignore all the signs at landings anyways, what's a sticker gonna do for them? People as a whole are idiots and I'm all for increased enforcement & citations which laws are already on the books for.
From the management side, it's come along further in the past 5 years than it has in the previous 50 - and there has been & will be some interesting ideas & trials, and WI / MN have been at the forefront of that. However, and that's a huge however, prevention is still a much much cheaper & better alternative than having to deal with it once established. If that means talking to people at landings, inspections, or online courses then so be it. They're not perfect, but they're far better sitting on your hands and saying "they'll be everywhere soon enough, so let us be!".
Pointer - any emphasis on hybrid EWM in MN? The new hot-topic going on in WI lately...
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Location: The desert | Pal - 10/3/2014 8:49 AM
My main question is are random roadside checks constitutional ?
I thought they were not constitutional for use against drunk driving, so how could they be OK here unless you can see weeds on a boat before requiring someone stop ?
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Yes, they are. Law enforcement officers are not doing the inspections, which is part of how ours differ from DUI checkpoints. This is all cleared by the county DA well ahead of time. |
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Location: The desert | scmuskies - 10/3/2014 9:07 AM
Pointerpride102 - 10/2/2014 6:14 PM
Please find me one example of this.
The Wisconsin DNR has been doing a study of lakes with zero public access and lakes with public access. Any guesses as to which lakes became infested?
Pointer - any emphasis on hybrid EWM in MN? The new hot-topic going on in WI lately...
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A little, and I'm sure we'll be ramping up in that area a bit more. The bigger stuff on our radar are Hydrilla and the golden mussel.
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Location: Twin Cities, MN | How about the Bighead carp getting caught in the St Croix, or has that shipped sailed ?.
I heard another 20 pound bighead was caught about a week ago although nary a mention about it from the MN DNR ..... that is not good for my favorite river |
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Location: The desert | Pal - 10/3/2014 9:23 AM
How about the Bighead carp getting caught in the St Croix, or has that shipped sailed ?.
I heard another 20 pound bighead was caught about a week ago although nary a mention about it from the MN DNR ..... that is not good for my favorite river
We have dedicated staff working on the bighead carp issue. I haven't heard any follow up on the most recent catch but I have a meeting next Tuesday where it will likely be discussed. The carp have been a concern for a while.
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Location: Twin Cities, MN | Pointerpride102 - 10/3/2014 9:40 AM
Pal - 10/3/2014 9:23 AM
How about the Bighead carp getting caught in the St Croix, or has that shipped sailed ?.
I heard another 20 pound bighead was caught about a week ago although nary a mention about it from the MN DNR ..... that is not good for my favorite river
We have dedicated staff working on the bighead carp issue. I haven't heard any follow up on the most recent catch but I have a meeting next Tuesday where it will likely be discussed. The carp have been a concern for a while.
Thanks Mike.
Anything you can share out of that meeting would be appreciated. I fish the Croix quite a bit, so that is very big concern.
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Location: The desert | Pal - 10/3/2014 9:47 AM
Pointerpride102 - 10/3/2014 9:40 AM
Pal - 10/3/2014 9:23 AM
How about the Bighead carp getting caught in the St Croix, or has that shipped sailed ?.
I heard another 20 pound bighead was caught about a week ago although nary a mention about it from the MN DNR ..... that is not good for my favorite river
We have dedicated staff working on the bighead carp issue. I haven't heard any follow up on the most recent catch but I have a meeting next Tuesday where it will likely be discussed. The carp have been a concern for a while.
Thanks Mike.
Anything you can share out of that meeting would be appreciated. I fish the Croix quite a bit, so that is very big concern.
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Location: Mayville, WI | Hydrilla - that there be some potentially nasty stuff. BTW, neither here nor there, but MN's AIS grant program is light years ahead of WI - I loathe ours... Especially with the new update.
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Location: The desert | scmuskies - 10/3/2014 10:44 AM
Hydrilla - that there be some potentially nasty stuff. BTW, neither here nor there, but MN's AIS grant program is light years ahead of WI - I loathe ours... Especially with the new update.
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Hydrilla makes EWM seem nice.
I just read the WDNR's bait shop initiative. Do you know if that is still happening? I read the case study done by UW. I've been thinking of pushing for something like this to help get the word out about the bait water exchange law here in MN. In general, most people don't know or don't understand the law.
I've also been pushing hard for more work around the movement and sale of docks and lifts and related equipment. In reality it could take several boats transporting veligers (assuming they are weed free, but not drained) but it only takes one dock or lift. Docks and lifts are incredibly difficult to decontaminate with hot water, though freezing over the winter is a guarantee. Our education program is geared primarily to public access users. Ideally if the sale of used dock and lift equipment, not done through a dealer, could be limited to winter months I think we'd being doing well. A very valid argument could be made that docks and lifts are a greater risk than the average boater. |
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Location: Mayville, WI | No, first I heard of the bait shop thing & read up on it (thanks!). From ones I've been in there is very little AIS info at them & I agree, it's a great point of contact.
Also agree on the docks & lifts - just look on craigslist & see what's for sale out there & likely 9/10 owners wouldn't think twice about where it came from. Lake Geneva, Mad Chain, Big Green, much of SE WI in Kenosha, Racine, & Waukesha Counties - that's a crap ton of lifts here and I'm sure even more in the bigger MN waters. |
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Location: The desert | Pal,
As promised, here is what I found out about the bighead carp. You are correct that a 901 mm (35.4 inch) 21 lb 5 oz bighead carp was captured by a commercial angler under DNR contract, at the mouth of the St. Croix river. The fish was shipped, intact, to the USGS in Missouri as sex was not determined at time of capture. The reason there was little word from the DNR is because bighead carp have been captured in this general area in the past. The DNR has been gill netting the St. Croix in conjunction with another project. I have not heard results from the gill netting as of yet. |
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