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Location: Ontario, Canada | If you fish the detroit river, keep an eye out for this guy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzdesfXfaTY |
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| Seen that video!! That guy should have his license revoked for life!!! |
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| If he's fishing the Canada side and the Ontario MNR gets wind of it, that may be a real possibility.
I don't know this first hand, but I have heard from those less fortunate that when the MNR gets done with you, you'll wish you never fished a day in your life! |
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Location: Planet Meltdown | Can anyone confirm if that's the Ontario side or not? I sent the link to the MNR. |
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Location: Northern IL | Defiantly the Canadian side, know the area well. Moron! |
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Location: Madison, WI | I found that randomly on YouTube and couldn't believe what I was watching. Absolute disgrace to fishing. |
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| Wow awesome you taped it and posted. Its absolutely amazing how naive humanity can be.... Good on ya! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Wow.
This guy will get arrested, matter of time. it's all over Facebook.
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Location: Appleton Wi | I couldnt believe when i saw this. I hear about idiots who do that but have never encountered it, i would never handle it as calm as he did. |
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| Wow; Just Wow! |
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| I know that Sweetness. he,s been poaching all his life. caught my lab in his rabbit snares 2x. he sells walleyes and obvious clubs skies. the mnr will be at his front door this morning. he will probably go to the hoosegow instead of pay a fine. sad eh. .
kudo,s to the young lads that videoed this. theres no room here in the st clair area for these jerks |
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Location: Lakeville, MN | Great job by the guys that approached this idiot and filmed the evidence. Couldn't have been done any better! |
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Location: FIB land | We need to arm ourselves with information that proves a fishery with a healthy muskie population is a healthier fishery of all species including the "favorites". Is this not true ? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | https://www.facebook.com/OutdoorsFIRST
Interesting reactions! Facebook rocks.
That guy should lose his fishing license for a few years. Idiot. |
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Location: Detroit River | Unfortunately that happens on a regular basis on LSC & the DR. On a regular basis I will either be on the water on the DR or LSC or leaving or coming into the dock & people will ask me what I’m fishing for & when I tell them “musky” they respond by saying; “I hope you kill everyone that you catch.” |
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| Let us know if u hear anymore on this low life scumbags punishment Woodie.
Landry |
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| CO's are on it. |
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| Awesome. |
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Location: Nowhere near where I should be | It pains me to see this, and knowing it could take place anywhere, and does, is just sickening. Especially knowing how hard clubs, natural resource departments, And most musky fisherman practicing C&R work at building and preserving this resource for the future of keeping something to enjoy. Ive approached people on the catch and release and handling issue in the past all with the same sort of narrow minded reply or argument of mind your own business.( Even during the biggest C&R tournament in the state) Honestly, it is my business, its your business too! Ive been a part of a club for a long time, and have helped raise money, donated time, and actually helped plant and stock fish in various local waters. As many on this site have contributed to, in some form, in/on your fisheries/lakes. Kudos to all of you who do care, And do work at keeping their fisheries alive, and keep spreading awareness and importance of what we as whole want to achieve. And a big up to the guys who kept cool and got video and pictures of, not necessarily the most ignorant dude out there, but possibly, one of there leaders. :P With that much footage, He should definitely be made an example of. Thank You! |
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| Bondy - 9/7/2014 8:02 PM
CO's are on it.
Good to hear!
Hope they are tough on crimes like that.
Lifetime hunting/fishing ban at minimum I say. |
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| hopefully the c.o has visited. I have not heard yet. as charges are not public knowledge until its thru courts on Ontario. I know the dingbat. no job does not care poaches rabbits/fish. theres a few here but there getting weeded out.. truly makes it bad for sportsmen and women that care. hopefully a judge that understands the outdoors sits on the bench that day.. I have personally tracked his snare line and cut every wire. some folks should never spawn guess his cousins screwed up |
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| I think his Affliction shirt says it all. The MNR will tap this guy out. |
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Location: Money, PA | One of the FEW good things about social media....I just hope that more people think to use it for good things like this in the future. |
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Location: Algonac, MI | 2nd person in less than a week, who was seen doing this...
There was another non-muskie fishing person (IDIOT), observed doing the same things in the Dumping Grounds. His boat had MC numbers, instead of 55E/42E numbers. Stupid knows no border lines.
Unfortunate, it happens a lot more, than people think. Way too many get it during the walleye run in the spring. |
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| At least Isaiah Nielson was killing them to feed his family. So there's that. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Got a call from a OMNR C.O. this morning...Made my day, they know who he is, they have contacted the guys that witnessed/video'd it, I'd say they have a pretty good case against this guy!
Edited by pigeontroller 9/8/2014 4:08 PM
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Location: South shore of Lake St. Clair | pigeontroller - 9/8/2014 4:08 PM
Got a call from a OMNR C.O. this morning...Made my day, they know who he is, they have contacted the guys that witnessed/video'd it, I'd say they have a pretty good case against this guy!
Excellent...Thanks for the update |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I hope they throw the book at this guy. |
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| Hats off to the guys that filmed this and confronted the guy who killed the fish. Good for you. Hope he gets caught. |
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Location: N.FIB | people like that make me sick,thanks to the angler who filmed this and maybe this will teach other people who kill fish not to do it because you never know when a cameras on ya. |
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Location: MN | I am glad these guys took action. I have heard the Canadian game and fish authorities do not mess around. Hopefully they give this guy what he deserves.
muskie-don58 - 9/7/2014 6:52 AM
We need to arm ourselves with information that proves a fishery with a healthy muskie population is a healthier fishery of all species including the "favorites". Is this not true ?
When I hear walleye guys share their dislike for the "walleye eating musky" I point out that the a lot of the best walleye fisheries in Minnesota contain muskies: LOTW, Leech, Winnie, St Louis River, Vermillion, Cass, Mille Lacs, Detroit Lakes...the list goes on. I am guessing you could compile a similar list for other states and Canada.
Most of these lakes are also excellent for big pannies, bass and/or pike.
There are scientific studies that show data that Muskie do not have a major effect on other fish populations but pointing out this simple fact seems to be more productive in getting them to second guess their viewpoint than referencing a study. |
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| I hope this POS will never be allowed to fish another day in his life. Thanks to the guys who confronted this moran who killed the fish. |
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| Nershi - 9/9/2014 4:58 PM
I am glad these guys took action. I have heard the Canadian game and fish authorities do not mess around. Hopefully they give this guy what he deserves.
muskie-don58 - 9/7/2014 6:52 AM
We need to arm ourselves with information that proves a fishery with a healthy muskie population is a healthier fishery of all species including the "favorites". Is this not true ?
When I hear walleye guys share their dislike for the "walleye eating musky" I point out that the a lot of the best walleye fisheries in Minnesota contain muskies: LOTW, Leech, Winnie, St Louis River, Vermillion, Cass, Mille Lacs, Detroit Lakes...the list goes on. I am guessing you could compile a similar list for other states and Canada.
Most of these lakes are also excellent for big pannies, bass and/or pike.
There are scientific studies that show data that Muskie do not have a major effect on other fish populations but pointing out this simple fact seems to be more productive in getting them to second guess their viewpoint than referencing a study.
those are the guys with their freezers PACKED with walleye and look for reasons other than themselves to blame for less than ideal fishing. |
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Location: Grand Marais, MN | I Really like the disgruntled looking still photo of that guy at the end
I hear the musky eat panfish/perch/walleye population to extinction argument all the time, strangely enough from anglers who cant find fish/ fished their water to death for 40 years and need something else to blame. |
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| Just a matter of time now.
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/caught-on-video-anglers-confront-... |
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| "We used to go out on Friday and catch 50 walleyes for our Friday night fish fry. Now we're lucky to get 20. The muskies are eating them all!"
I told a guy this once:
"They usually eat suckers, redhorse, bullheads, and all the other fish that eat walleye eggs. Even if they do eat the occasional walleye, a musky only eats a fish every couple days. You guys wipe out more walleyes in a weekend than a musky will eat in it's entire life."
But then you can't tell people like this anything. They heard once from cletus in the bar. That's all it takes. |
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| the argument of fish eating other fish. if one was to look at biological factors and invasive species then they could afford a formed opinion. . st clairs sight feeders enjoyed a population increase. at the zebra mussel invasion most of us moved our charteboats to l.erie. truthfully we never cracked the new code. theres lots of walleyes/perct etc in st clair. re-learn how to fish and theres lots for a meal..a statement in the area paper .ive known eddy 40 years. he had a bad day. the eddy I saw in the video clubbing musky is a poacher. . either her standards are very low or she don't know this eddy. the guy that sells walleyes. snares rabbits illegally.. themnr in Ontario have first prioritized this clubbing because sportsmen care on there lakes/outdoors. |
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| http://www.windsorstar.com/index.html
His rebuttal, video top right.
He's sorry he got caught... Idiot |
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wow....He Cant even lie well. Living garbage.....Ish! |
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Location: The desert | Anyone have a direct link to his "rebuttal"? The posted link doesn't work on my mobile device. |
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Location: Not far enough north! | All Bull... He will never do this again though, in daylight when someone else is around. |
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| You have to be kidding! What a joke! |
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| Here is the problem...I am looking at what he did. Killed (kept) an undersized musky. He then let it spoil. Unless they have him for something else, I don't think that amounts to anything more than a fine of some sort. He'll get off easy is my prediction...sad to say. |
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| I watched about 10 seconds of it and I thought: "Aw, SHUT UP, you asshat!!"
Aw... now he's "sorry"...
He's "sorry" because he got caught and now he's got a target on his backside.
He's "sorry" because his lawyer told him he had better be.
He's "sorry" because he was too stupid to predict the crapstorm he just brought on himself.
If he had an ounce of sorry in him, he'd have thrown the fish back BEFORE he clubbed it.
Oh well. He may as well walk around with a shirt that says "I'm a D-bag!" at this point.
There's no excuse he can make now that's going to fix anything. |
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Location: The desert | Bondy - 9/10/2014 7:02 PM
Here is the problem...I am looking at what he did. Killed (kept) an undersized musky. He then let it spoil. Unless they have him for something else, I don't think that amounts to anything more than a fine of some sort. He'll get off easy is my prediction...sad to say.
Wanton waste.
I know in some places the CO (usually Captain or LT) can recommend revocation. |
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| I would think the boat was used in the crime so maybe they should take the boat. He is "sorry" because he got and why did he have the club in the boat? He's a lying POS and Karmas a good guy. |
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Location: Detroit River | edalz - 9/10/2014 10:19 PM I would think the boat was used in the crime so maybe they should take the boat. He is "sorry" because he got and why did he have the club in the boat? He's a lying POS and Karmas a good guy. It wasn't his boat from what I've heard. He's so full of crap when he claimed it was his first time doing that. http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/accused-muskie-hater-apologizes-for-killing-fish-and-heated-confrontation?fb_action_ids=10202688028191012&fb_action_types=og.comments |
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| I heard that as well but if I lend you my car and you get caught committing a crime in it then the police may confiscate the car. I'm sure the guy that lent out the boat is regretting his decision. |
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn | Pointerpride102 - 9/10/2014 8:07 PM
Bondy - 9/10/2014 7:02 PM
Here is the problem...I am looking at what he did. Killed (kept) an undersized musky. He then let it spoil. Unless they have him for something else, I don't think that amounts to anything more than a fine of some sort. He'll get off easy is my prediction...sad to say.
Wanton waste.
I know in some places the CO (usually Captain or LT ) can recommend revocation. |
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Location: NE PA | What a scumbag.... I think that sums it up actually. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Here's the original thread. Protocol here is if the same topic is on the first page, one goes...because it makes no sense to have two active threads about exactly the same topic plugging up the board. If it's back a ways, then it may be news to some folks. I agree folks need to read more than the first couple threads, but some don't have the time....or inclination. That's understandably a little annoying to those who read most everything.
What reel for Double Tens? 
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