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Location: Chisholm, MN | Most of us who have been at this a while are in physical pain from all the big baits and what not. I've got neck pain, sciatic nerve problems and headaches, but the worst lately is my thumb. The big meaty part of it gets really cramped up from thumbing the spool, especially later in the season when throwing heavy baits. But it has bothered me all winter this year. Aside from switching casting arms (which I will attempt to do this season), does anyone have any good advice on relieving this pain? |
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| Do you wear a neoprene hand brace? VanRemortal spoke at WI Muskellunge(yeah I typed the whole word)Expo and encouraged one for the fatigue factor. I don't fish enough to need one but saw them for about $8. This doesn't relieve what you currently have. I'd try to gleen some free advice from a physical therapist. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Drink a sh*t load of water. Beyond working out, seeing a physical therapist, etc. etc...drinking water should help with cramping. |
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| Holding the foregrip of the rod helps. If you take your thumb and bend it back towards your elbow, basically stretching that area (lightly) it seems to help loosen things up a bit. I bought one of those wrist braces and started sleeping with it on. Not sure what I was doing in my sleep, but it was always bad in the morning. The wrist brace helped a ton to the point where I don't even wear it anymore. |
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| have you had it looked at? I cant imagine switching up casting hands or reeling hands like Ive read on here...seems the change would be hard enough not to mention the cost of switch equipment with reels |
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| Pamprin is supposed to help. |
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Location: MN | I pop an Aleve or two befor the day starts. I'm in awful shape and I think it helps. I also stay hydrated as mentioned above. It helps fight off cramping. |
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| I was way to hard on the body when I was younger and after a few more recent car accidents the only way for me to control the pain is regular therapy during the heavy play months and the occasional use of prescriptions. Another thing that I have used that really works for me on multpile parts of the body is called a Tenz machine. Not sure if it's the correct spelling. Basically it runs an electrical current through two electrodes. I use on alot and with heat it really work on the back,shoulders,neck,legs, anywhere really. |
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| I hear trolling helps. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Well, I wouldn't have t change reels really. Just the casting arm. Imagine thumbing the spool while launching a pounder. Putting that much pressure on the thumb is taking a toll.
AR, my menstrual cramps are under control...thank you.
I'm thinking I may have to go in for it eventually, but mainly I'm wondering about stretches and if anyone else has the issue I'm having an if they have fixed it.
I guess one way is to not throw the big baits...but that ain't happening. |
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| I had to cancel my trip to Kinkaid today, so I was a bit sarcastic there Kirby. I've dealt with knee issues for 30 years, but what I have learned is braces may help reduce strain, but they do not prevent injury. Especially repetitive use injury. Best to strengthen the body parts, stretch before and after, and as noted, stay hydrated. See a physical therapist soon. Preferably one with a chiropractor in the clinic. Hand strengthening, a thick rubber band around the fingers tight and expand fingers and also a stress ball. Do while driving. Good luck with the other body parts. |
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| Cut back on the big baits. Maybe throw them during prime times only or when you know a nice fish is in the area. Other baits will catch fish. Small is your friend. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I was thinking Midol and a few cocktails.
Lots of water does help. I also am a switch hitter/caster and I know that helps.
Seriously, Living/playing with pain is just the way it is.. Sometimes.
I also thumb the spool, but if it is adjusted a little bit tighter than with lighter baits your thumb will thank you.
Hey... You're a Pro and only in your 30's Buck up and quit whining.
Sheesh.... |
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| Have you seen a doctor? If you have a problem with a tendon, it will take months to heal. Before you can fix it, really need to know the source of the problem. I injured a tendon in my forearm a few years ago and mentioned it when I saw the doc for my annual check up. He checked me over and suggested a neoprene brace and patience. Took about 4 months for it to heal. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Top H2O - 3/23/2017 1:31 PM
I was thinking Midol and a few cocktails.
Lots of water does help. I also am a switch hitter/caster and I know that helps.
Seriously, Living/playing with pain is just the way it is.. Sometimes.
I also thumb the spool, but if it is adjusted a little bit tighter than with lighter baits your thumb will thank you.
Hey... You're a Pro and only in your 30's Buck up and quit whining.
Sheesh....
Haha! You guys are mean!
Never mind  I'll just quit whining!
Tightening up the reel is a good tip. Thanks |
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| I switched completely to the opposite hand due to tendinitis a few years back. Took about one hour to learn. Tendinitis is gone and now I switch ever hour. It has become so natural either way now that when I boat a fish I can't remember which hand I was using. Then again maybe I'm just getting old enough to not remember...
I figure that switching might extend my casting years due to less one sided wear and tear. My goal is to be casting at 80, that's 20 plus years yet. |
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Location: MN | Thumb stretches? There aren't too many ways one can stretch a thumb.
I adjust spool brakes so that my thumb doesn't need to thumb the spool unless I can hear it start to backlash which is pretty rare when casting correctly.
I got tendinitis a few years ago when the bite for the first month of the season was twitching cranks aggressively. People who don't understand muskie fishing usually laugh when I tell them I got it from fishing. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Yeah I want to switch arms and fiddled with it a little last year. Might be possible! |
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| yea I would def try and strengthen the area and do exercises....rubber bands stress balls even small weight tied to string and raise and lower controlled with the thumb I think these things will make huge diff |
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Location: MN | 'Do you lift bro?'
'Yea I've been working on my thumbs this week.' |
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| muskidiem - 3/23/2017 12:48 PM Do you wear a neoprene hand brace? VanRemortal spoke at WI Muskellunge(yeah I typed the whole word)Expo and encouraged one for the fatigue factor. I don't fish enough to need one but saw them for about $8. This doesn't relieve what you currently have. I'd try to gleen some free advice from a physical therapist.
+ 1 Point.
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Location: Madison, WI | even golfers have to listen to their body if they want to do it at a high level for a long time...
being able to feel the difference between muscular aches and pains vs the start of an injury, can mean taking it easy for couple weeks vs continuing to push it hard and getting a surgery and missing half a season.
I'll wear the "sissy" flag with pride if it means being able to cast for muskies longer when i get older, just sayin!
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Location: Illinois | When I switch hands I call it the stranger
I've never had pain in the thumb area but have had it in wrist,forearm,elbow,shoulder,etc and ended up finding out I had a vertebra issue causing some of the issues(tendinitis was the other). If you're still having pain from a few months ago I'd check with a doctor(medical professional). |
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| Braces help only if you stop what has irritated it. They actually make you weaker making the injury more persistent. If you find a good chiropractor they can help you out. I seriously get toes, foot bones, ankles, all the way up every bone to my last knuckle on my fingers. When jerk bait fishing bass I get a pain like your saying, it's forearm bones and wrist out of alignment. In addition to tendons being inflamed, chyro can teach you stretches for your individual issue. A good one will understand the mechanics of bone, tendons, muscles and nerves. Working for a real solution. |
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| I used to laugh at guys with their braces and their advil... I don't remember who it was but they said "you're what, 35? Wait ten years!!"
Yep. That was about when things started to go South... |
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| Stop throwing Pounders and "burning" 10's you silly kid! |
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| Throwing overhead loads the thumb. Using more of a sidearm motion puts the load more towards the index finger as you load the rod which is when the stress happens. |
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| A Good chiropractor is worth their weight in gold even for that kind of stuff. You would be amazed how certain parts of your anatomy that hurt are actually caused by some misalignment in a completely different area. I have one pretty wrenched shoulder from a lifetime of Bench Presses and bad tendonitis in my right elbow. Went to my Bone cracker and he actually showed me the tendonitis was a result of a problem with my shoulder pain running down to my elbow not my elbow. Started doing the shoulder stretches he gave me and i will be #*^@ed if it hasn't relieved a lot of the pain. Long story short is you may be surprised on what may be needed to actually alleviate an issue. |
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Location: Almond, WI | Strengthening your grip is a good idea. Don't use the v shaped springs though, they are more likely to worsen the problem. Instead get a stress ball or ring. There are a variety of lifts that build grip strength (deadlifts, pull-ups/chin-ups, Pendlay rows, heavy dumbbell rows, farmer's walk). I'd recommend just doing some wrist curls and extensions, that tendon goes back into your wrist so flexing it should help stretch it out. Also look into some of the carpal tunnel stretches for your hands. |
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| smoke a few cigs while out there. |
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Location: Southwest PA | leech lake strain - 3/26/2017 10:47 PM
smoke a few cigs while out there.
Chew is better, keeps both hands free and less scent transfered to everything in your boat...  |
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Location: NorthCentral WI | Tommis - 3/26/2017 10:02 PM
Chew is better, keeps both hands free and less scent transfered to everything in your boat... ;)
Better not get your spit on my carpet or you may get a lashing from a 9' rod upside the head. 10 mg of Oxycodone and you'll be feeling fine. |
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Location: Southwest PA | Lmao, I would never! That would warrant a good lashing but I'd use one of the little baseball bats... no need to ruin your rod and your carpet |
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| I quit chewing over 5 months ago.
We will see how it goes when I'm fishing everyday. Having a dip while fishing is something I've always done. It is a nasty habit, and it does get all over sides and top of the gunnels, of the boat. |
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Location: Waukee, IA | I have ways to work through the pain of long days bombing muskie baits, they just aren't legal in every state. |
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Location: Southwest PA | Congrats on quitting! it's still my guilty pleasure, other than muskie fishing. I just carry a spitter, solves the mess and is a force of habit from the work van anyways. I feel bad, I got this thread off topic! No more chew talk! |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Nothing more disgusting that a grown man collecting his spit in a bottle. Not allowed in my boat or truck lol.. |
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Location: Southwest PA | Lol Jake I said no more chew talk but to each their own. If that's the rule, I'll follow out of respect. Last thing... Save the lungs, screw the gums! Ok, I'm done now. For real this time. |
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| I have been casting the last two trips out, I have an extremely tight muscle in my left upper back/shoulder that is nasty, going to try to put some heat on it, early season woes get me every year, same when I start planer boat fishing and jigging, you lose muscle memory over winter it eventually clears up. |
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Location: Detroit River | Kgonefishin - 3/28/2017 10:20 AMI have been casting the last two trips out, I have an extremely tight muscle in my left upper back/shoulder that is nasty, going to try to put some heat on it, early season woes get me every year, same when I start planer boat fishing and jigging, you lose muscle memory over winter it eventually clears up. Don't apply heat, apply an ice pack. |
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Don't apply heat, apply an ice pack.
Exactly. Before any day on the water I spend 20 minutes with four heating pads in the room applying heat to my lower back, neck area, and both arms with emphasis on the elbow area. When I get back, I spend 20 minutes with moldable blue ice bags on those same areas. It's a PIA to do, but I can't make it all season without doing it that way. |
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Location: Waukee, IA | Most guys will scoff, but there are yoga programs targeting specific areas of the body. My uncle is a completely new man because of his lower back routine he does every morning. He calls it stretching, but they're old timey yoga poses. Call it whatever you like, it helps a lot to loosen up and allow regenerative blood flow |
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Location: Aurora | Consider switching over to a spinning reel and use a launcher.
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Check this out:
http://www.thefishingwire.com/story/399504 |
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Location: Phoenixville, PA | When my back hurts and my arms are about to fall off, I pick up my light spinning reel and catch some perch for the cooler. I also will fish for bass. Not only does this give my body a break from big baits, but I often learn where the perch are holding and how active they are. Fishing for bass and perch informs my musky fishing. If the bass are taking spinner baits, I will start throwing bucktails, if they want plastic worms, I will slow down and start throwing musky jigs or gliders. I also end up catching fish, which does not always happen when I spend the whole time throwing musky bait. |
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| The comforting reality is there're so many of us to share these realities. What's so uncomfortable, is that so few young people appear excited to join our midst. But that's for a whole nuther thread. About four or five years ago I wrote an article called "The Bionic Angler" where I talked about a whole list of products that allow us oldsters to stay on the water. The good news is there are enough new products to write a sequel. The bad news is I'm 67 and need them faster then they come out. So far, the real winner for me is the "lightness of St Croix rods" (yea they are my sponsor) and the Ulterra self-deployed bow mount (not my sponsor.) In fact, the safety factor alone for Ulterra saving us a trip to the bow in rough seas is maybe the single best innovation in allowing unsteady seniors to stay out there on nasty days. |
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| No heat! Only ice. Even today as your in the office it will help for this up coming weekend. I was told to freeze a coffe cup and bust out the bottom of have it full. 5-10 minutes in an area about 3x the size of the cup. Keep moving to avoid frost bite, and the cup was the insulator for you hand is all. |
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