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Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI | Johnnie is in the know. He's on the CC. Bank on it!
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Ok, being on multiple FISHING Websites Really means YOU have a problem...
With that said, no information has gotten to us "sane people"
I will be Trolling, like now....... With Mr. Sled .
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Location: oswego, il | Maybe we can get different answers, keep asking untill you get the answer you want. |
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Location: NE Wisconsin | I was at the Executive Comm. meeting this afternoon of the Conservation Congress. Kate from the Bureau of Fisheries told us the new WI trolling reg will take effect July 1st. One line per angler and a max of two per boat in Vilas and Oneida and few other counties, rest will be three lines per angler. Sure you will be seeing more on this very soon. The last legislative comm. to have a shot at it didn't respond in their thirty day time period.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | time to install the cup-holders ... |
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Location: oswego, il | jonnysled - 5/14/2015 7:58 PM
time to install the cup-holders ...
And cod liver oil. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Fill the cups with cod liver oil and every time you pull your lures to move or check for weeds dip them in the oil. |
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Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI | Sad end to a great tradition! Long live Bob Ellis! |
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| People can still row troll if they would like to however some of us can not afford an entire new boat setup for one specific type of fishing. I for one like the propose regulations. |
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| ----- soooo ,,,, "the sport is effectively been pussified" ,,,,, therefore ,, ALL people that troll for muskies should be called what ??? ------ |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | ^motor troll small Wisconsin Lakes that are traditionally row-trolled ...
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Location: MN | Where's my planer boards???? |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | jonnysled - 5/15/2015 8:21 AM
the sport is effectively been pussified ... progress? nah ... more like the ez-button.
Planer boards and rod holders are already in hand. I have yet to install the cup holders and I'm going to shop for a portable bar I can use in the boat. I don't have any 3XL sweat pants yet but I'm sure it will take a few months to acquire the trolling pear shape so I've got time.
Accentuate the positive Sled. If you collect all the floating aluminum cans you see this summer you can probably pay for a tank or two of gas. |
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Location: oswego, il | Row trolling a.tradition brought forth illegal motor trolling. It is a choice, I do not see it dying. I still see people oar position to cast up north. Having said that, the defibrillator is looking mighty useful in that first aid kit.
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Location: MN | jonnysled - 5/15/2015 8:21 AM
the sport is effectively been pussified ... progress? nah ... more like the ez-button.
Yes we ought to get rid of your glass boats and go back to a wood boat, get rid of the outboard and trolling motor and get out the oars, get rid of your graphs and get out the depth bombs, etc etc because that is pussifing the sport. All that makes it an ez button. |
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Location: Already Gone | Perfect, just in time for The Fourth when all of us Fibs come up and devastate stuff....
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Location: West Chester, OH | What size cups are we talking here? 20 oz or tubs that come from the convenient stores?
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Location: 31 | BOUT TIME, nothing is stopping anyone from continuing a tradition. Row trollers will (with the latest high-tech electronics and other equipment) still be able to do their thing… with 3 rods.
However, if you consider it's roots the “no motor trolling tradition” was only started as way to circumvent the motor trolling ban (IMHO).
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Location: minocqua, wi. | today was FIB-free friday on the chain ... nice for another couple weeks before the knuckleheads show up to bail us all out of our poverty. |
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Location: oswego, il | I ordered a marine bowflex for my boat, paid the extra for stainless hardware and it will fit on my front deck pedestal. Comes with a cup holder. |
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Location: Already Gone | Nah...we're already here. |
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Location: NE Wisconsin |
Statement this afternoon by acting director fisheries to full Conservation Congress
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | Johnnie - 5/15/2015 5:38 PM
Statement this afternoon by acting director fisheries to full Conservation Congress
http://youtu.be/MrWvO9Nzn80
Is there one that the general public is allowed to view ? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Wisco copied Illineesia and has had Troll Booths for years. I do not see the issue here... |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I've been fishing muskies since mid 80's and bass before that. At one time I could put in a lot of 14 hour days casting but that's no longer in 72 year old back and shoulders nor is rowing. If I was restricted to casting my fishing would be done but with a bit of luck I may have a couple of years left. Over the years it always seemed to me I could find and catch more fish casting but bigger fish trolling. I still enjoy a bit of casting but only in very short sessions at last light. I will probably never troll in Wisconsin but then again why would I leave Yankee Stadium. |
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| Johnnie - 5/15/2015 5:38 PM
Statement this afternoon by acting director fisheries to full Conservation Congress
[Youtube]MrWvO9Nzn80
http://youtube/MrWvO9Nzn80
Hmmm
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Location: Already Gone | Same here.
Let the WI wailing and knashing of teeth begin on July 1st.
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | sworrall - 5/19/2015 2:47 PM
Rod holders are on the way. Otherwise I am ready.
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Location: Hayward, WI | "This rule will only remain in effect until the end of the 2017-18 fishing season. We plan to gather information on the new rule over the next couple of years and develop a permanent rule proposal for public hearings in spring 2017 (to be effective in spring 2018)." |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | fishhawk50 - 5/19/2015 3:33 PM
sworrall - 5/19/2015 2:47 PM
Rod holders are on the way. Otherwise I am ready.
gunmetal sweatpants to match the boat as well? ; )
If that's what you want to wear, sure.
My boat is not gunmetal.
I don't wear sweat pants unless I am going Ice fishing. But I will troll some, and I will enjoy it. Especially pulling spinners for Bass, Pike and 'Eyes. |
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Location: Wisconsin | This is perfect. I want to buy a cabin up north and when 4 boats pulling 2 rods each wipe out the lake in roughly 12 minutes I should be able to get a smoking deal from someone who lives on the lake. And now no longer wants the cabin. I originally had this idea in Minnesota but unfortunately none of the small lakes we fish were wiped out so property values remain stable. Keep me posted on which lake is wiped out first. Thanks
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Location: minocqua, wi. | bwahahahahahaha ... ^ i see what you did there!!
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| I am glad I can now fish a sucker in the fall and use the trolling motor without worrying whether I am complying with the regulations. However, I do hope folks who troll are mindful of others on small lakes, like where I live. Last summer I was out fishing here in Oneida county and two guys in a Pro V, with multiple planer boards, came through the area I was fishing. Mind you, trolling was not allowed but they didn't care. The planer boards were way out to the side and they pretty well took up the whole area between a shallow rock bar and the reed line. I previously lived near Lake Winnebago and was used to seeing big trolling set ups but seeing the same set up on a small lake made me realize how much territory it takes up. Winnebago is huge and taking a swath of 125 feet or more with a multi planer board set doesn't look like much. Do the same thing on a 150 acre lake and it is a different situation.
I do hope the law helps some guys who can no longer handle the physical challenge of casting. I check boats in at the landing on our chain as a volunteer and on several occasions over the years, older guys have commented that they are "along for the ride" because they can't stand and cast for any length of time so they don't go out very often.
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Location: north central wisconsin | By multi board set, you must mean 2, as that is all they'll be able to run there.
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Location: oswego, il | I am feverishly working on an indestructible elastic waste band for sweat pants, one that can stretch over 50" stay there forever. Health organizations predict waste lines to increase on average 20" for the northern region of Wisconsin due to complete inactivity in the coming year. They also predict the opposite in five years due to starvation, the red cross is already gearing up. The elastic will also be featured on the kankle portion of the sweatpant. I just added gunmetal to the color selection! |
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However, depending on how the planer boards are run, you can still take up a lot of real estate with two planer boards. Don't have a problem with the change, but I am concerned that guys who are new to trolling could make the dog's breakfast out of it when trolling on small bodies of water, with others trying to cast. There is real skill involved in running planer boards and some guys on the water can't chew bubble gum and walk at the same time, let alone do a competent job with something with that many variables. Every year my boat, on a lift, gets hit by musky fisherman with no depth perception. Same guys routinely throw lures into trees, etc.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Musky Fishermen in general are a pretty smart bunch with the kind of humility we should all be proud of.
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Location: 31 | jonnysled - 5/21/2015 7:37 AM Musky Fishermen in general are a pretty smart bunch with the kind of humility we should all be proud of. "see what i did there?" Facetiously agree Sled; except for the gap that occurs when a "tradition" interrupts what would other wise be a normal thought process.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | is there a prize for the first person to solve your riddle? or are you trying to make a point? |
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Location: 31 | jonnysled - 5/21/2015 8:45 AM is there a prize for the first person to solve your riddle? or are you trying to make a point? Thank you!
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| I don't think the law, as written, is going to be the demise of any fisheries. That said, I'm pretty certain that it will be abused... profusely. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | Putting those extra 10 inches on the waist will be difficult, especially with the late start to the trolling season. |
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| North of 8 - 5/21/2015 7:16 AM
I am glad I can now fish a sucker in the fall and use the trolling motor without worrying whether I am complying with the regulations. However, I do hope folks who troll are mindful of others on small lakes, like where I live. Last summer I was out fishing here in Oneida county and two guys in a Pro V, with multiple planer boards, came through the area I was fishing. Mind you, trolling was not allowed but they didn't care. The planer boards were way out to the side and they pretty well took up the whole area between a shallow rock bar and the reed line. I previously lived near Lake Winnebago and was used to seeing big trolling set ups but seeing the same set up on a small lake made me realize how much territory it takes up. Winnebago is huge and taking a swath of 125 feet or more with a multi planer board set doesn't look like much. Do the same thing on a 150 acre lake and it is a different situation.
I do hope the law helps some guys who can no longer handle the physical challenge of casting. I check boats in at the landing on our chain as a volunteer and on several occasions over the years, older guys have commented that they are "along for the ride" because they can't stand and cast for any length of time so they don't go out very often.
If they do take up a lot of territory, that is their problem. They will have to maneuver around everyone. I don't move when i am casting because a troller is coming at me, they have to move around me (and others). |
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| I'm thinking of some of my favorite lakes and wondering what will happen first:
1. Pontoon trollers running 8 lines destroying the fisheries in a season or two because they heard trolling is legal now and creel limits were repealed at the same time...
2. The lake bottom starts to resemble Rollie and Helens and everybody goes back to casting... |
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Location: oswego, il | Just heard a rumor that a popular boat maker is changing their ratings from 6 to 2 people and 785lbs on their 18' model. |
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Location: mercer wi | The rule is max 2 lines per boat. So it doesnt matter if a pontoon boat has 8 people on it it still is 2 per boat. Just because you can troll doesnt mean your goin to catch fish. Just means you can cover More water. I like the idea for fall sucker fishin n late season when air temp are freezin. Gives you a chance at warmin up n still keepin a line wet. and as far as boat traffic whats the diffrence between trollers and pleasure boats. Fishermen are goin to to curtious to each other. Id rather deal with trollers then drunk wake boarders n skiers. |
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Location: Already Gone | upnortdave - 5/23/2015 2:19 PM
The rule is max 2 lines per boat. So it doesnt matter if a pontoon boat has 8 people on it it still is 2 per boat. Just because you can troll doesnt mean your goin to catch fish. Just means you can cover More water. I like the idea for fall sucker fishin n late season when air temp are freezin. Gives you a chance at warmin up n still keepin a line wet. and as far as boat traffic whats the diffrence between trollers and pleasure boats. Fishermen are goin to to curtious to each other. Id rather deal with trollers then drunk wake boarders n skiers.
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Location: oswego, il | If they kept the 6 people rating they would need to quadruple the weight capacity. |
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Location: mercer wi | so im a caster all the way but will use sucker n troll once in awhile now. Does that mean im a fat azz. Just curious. I live mercer wi.
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Location: Already Gone | I don't know Dave...ask some of your homies in Minoqua and Hayward.
They seem to think so. |
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Location: mercer wi | Just dont get it I guess. I would love to look back at these posts year from now. See what people are sayin after they get lucky n catch there pb weather with a sucker or crankbait. Some are old school n I respect that. Ive been at it for 20 year but lookin forward to beenin able to use a trollin motor legally to position my boat to catch a musky or 2. Maybe my son can get his first on a sucker. Are people goin to ridicule my 7 year old or me. |
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| I have no problem with the 1 line per angler trolling--I don't think it is going to have a negative effect of any fishery....BUT--with so many smaller lakes up north--maybe a lake size acreage could have been imposed to lessen the likelihood of problems on small lakes. While I will not troll on the smaller lakes---I will definitely use it for the large bodies of water. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | I'm wondering if one of those bumper boats that might be just perfect for a mast, and skis on the 60 acre puddles. Just set up in the middle and spin circles.
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | ARmuskyaddict - 5/24/2015 7:28 AM
I was on the phone last night with my mom in MN and she had heard from a good friend of hers from Hayward that apparently the sky really has fallen.
It's overcast for sure, but I don't think it's predicted to fall until later this afternoon. |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | It's ok, a certain resort owner here has his jacks out and under the corners of the sky and hopes to have it jacked back up by 2018... |
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Location: oswego, il | Sled can you please recommend him a good cup holder for his beer? |
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Sled can you please recommend him a good cup holder for his beer?
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Location: oswego, il | So many opportunities for business with the new trolling law. You have seen treadmill desks for the office, coming soon treadmill steering counsels! |
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Support groups for trollers ?
12 step programs to stop trolling ?
Big pharma developing a drug for CD (casting dysfunction) ? It's probably difficult to throw a pounder if you can't get your stick up. |
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Location: West Chester, OH | Troll-thru Starbucks, so sleepy trollers can get a jolt of Espresso. |
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Location: Nowheresville, MN | Tragedy of the commons.
From a merely selfish perspective mind you. While it likely will not cause a tragedy in terms of depleting a fishery, I can't help but wonder how it would affect me (if i still lived there). Lots of angles and analogies to describe what I'm talking about. A fish you catch/keep is one I cannot. Jig and minnows and slip corks catch plenty of fish, and certainly are the best tools in certain times of the year. But I'm here to tell you boys Lindy Rigs, Slow Death, spinners, etc. are going to put more walleyes in anglers creels without question. Motivated anglers will find out big muskies aren't the only big fish that spend time in the basin on those little Cisco puddles...
A fish you sore mouth towing a depth raider while eating a sammich at noon today is not one I can catch casting the basin tomorrow. (This ought to be good to keep this going).. I for one believe ONE of the reasons Muskie fishing in MN was extraordinary is because suckers were rarely used. A neutral fish you catch on a sucker today is not one I can catch on a hard bait in two days when she turns on. I'm selfish. When I fish, I want to catch as many as I can. Maybe I'm just a jaded jerk. I just don't get a warm fuzzy feeling to know you caught a bunch of fish. Some folks on here used to share patterns and even (shore) spots on this very board. They were warned. They called us selfish. "We're supposed to share our sport" they said. "It's all about helping other anglers" they said. Shucks. They got burned. Their shore spots were burned and shared with the rest of the University. Play time was over...
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Location: MN | ^^ just curious why you are any more deserving of that fish casting vs someone else trolling. Isn't the fish you catch burned for the next guy as well? |
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Location: oswego, il | Provided those fisherman are good enough to catch them. The same can be said for any fish caught before you were able to present a bait to it. Your worry seems to be more about more people fishing your lakes.
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Location: Nowheresville, MN | Propster - 5/26/2015 6:42 PM ^^ just curious why you are any more deserving of that fish casting vs someone else trolling. Isn't the fish you catch burned for the next guy as well? Precisely. I never said I was more deserving or anybody else was less deserving for that matter. |
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Location: oswego, il | Branding, I like it. I am going to catch brand and release my muskies from now on. I won't even have to get my soon to be lard ass out of the seat. Brand and shake loose. No knocking my drink out of the cup holders, stepping on my bag of fritos, my blood pressure will be high enough as it is, circulation to my legs at a minimum, why risk getting up to net a fish?
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Location: Wisconsin | The more I think about it, the more I am on board with trolling Oneida and vilas. Looking forward to it for a few spots I fish |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | I have zero issues with the new regs and will probably buy a new trolling motor myself. I've been a lake home owner in Land O Lakes for 13 years now, and in that time I've been checked 1 time by WDNR wardens. 1x. They can't keep up with checking fishing permits/boat registrations, how in the world can we expect them to patrol for trollers in 1500 some odd lakes up there? |
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Location: Racine, Wi | While redoing the deck in my boat, I actually added a new cup holder to the port side for the passenger I have to make sure is joining me in the boat while I troll this year.
Along with that, I found some cup holders that fit on your belt as well. We'll have 2 free hands once I dial in the minn kota so I will have room for a drink in both hands, and can easily stow them when we get a rip.
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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | tfootstalker - 5/26/2015 6:29 PM
Tragedy of the commons.
From a merely selfish perspective mind you. While it likely will not cause a tragedy in terms of depleting a fishery, I can't help but wonder how it would affect me (if i still lived there). Lots of angles and analogies to describe what I'm talking about. A fish you catch/keep is one I cannot. Jig and minnows and slip corks catch plenty of fish, and certainly are the best tools in certain times of the year. But I'm here to tell you boys Lindy Rigs, Slow Death, spinners, etc. are going to put more walleyes in anglers creels without question. Motivated anglers will find out big muskies aren't the only big fish that spend time in the basin on those little Cisco puddles...
A fish you sore mouth towing a depth raider while eating a sammich at noon today is not one I can catch casting the basin tomorrow. (This ought to be good to keep this going).. I for one believe ONE of the reasons Muskie fishing in MN was extraordinary is because suckers were rarely used. A neutral fish you catch on a sucker today is not one I can catch on a hard bait in two days when she turns on. I'm selfish. When I fish, I want to catch as many as I can. Maybe I'm just a jaded jerk. I just don't get a warm fuzzy feeling to know you caught a bunch of fish. Some folks on here used to share patterns and even (shore) spots on this very board. They were warned. They called us selfish. "We're supposed to share our sport" they said. "It's all about helping other anglers" they said. Shucks. They got burned. Their shore spots were burned and shared with the rest of the University. Play time was over...
Just another viewpoint I haven't seen expressed yet.
Let her rip...
And yet MN was "extraordinary" while BOTH trolling was legal and practiced by many. Sucker fishing was/is legal in MN of course, just not much incentive with the 1 line law. Yet, from little 200 acre lakes to BIG water, there are still fish to be had and both methods have been legal longer than most of us on here have been fishing. Hmmmm
And a fish you catch on a hardbait today may be one I won't be able to catch on topwater in 2 days when she turns on? So perhaps YOU shouldn't fish the baits you like? But I suppose your just more important than the next guy right? The glorious "ME" generation, lol.
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Location: The desert | tfootstalker - 5/26/2015 6:29 PM
Tragedy of the commons.
From a merely selfish perspective mind you. While it likely will not cause a tragedy in terms of depleting a fishery, I can't help but wonder how it would affect me (if i still lived there). Lots of angles and analogies to describe what I'm talking about. A fish you catch/keep is one I cannot. Jig and minnows and slip corks catch plenty of fish, and certainly are the best tools in certain times of the year. But I'm here to tell you boys Lindy Rigs, Slow Death, spinners, etc. are going to put more walleyes in anglers creels without question. Motivated anglers will find out big muskies aren't the only big fish that spend time in the basin on those little Cisco puddles...
A fish you sore mouth towing a depth raider while eating a sammich at noon today is not one I can catch casting the basin tomorrow. (This ought to be good to keep this going).. I for one believe ONE of the reasons Muskie fishing in MN was extraordinary is because suckers were rarely used. A neutral fish you catch on a sucker today is not one I can catch on a hard bait in two days when she turns on. I'm selfish. When I fish, I want to catch as many as I can. Maybe I'm just a jaded jerk. I just don't get a warm fuzzy feeling to know you caught a bunch of fish. Some folks on here used to share patterns and even (shore) spots on this very board. They were warned. They called us selfish. "We're supposed to share our sport" they said. "It's all about helping other anglers" they said. Shucks. They got burned. Their shore spots were burned and shared with the rest of the University. Play time was over...
Just another viewpoint I haven't seen expressed yet.
Let her rip...
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| tfootstalker - 5/26/2015 6:29 PM
Tragedy of the commons.
From a merely selfish perspective mind you. While it likely will not cause a tragedy in terms of depleting a fishery, I can't help but wonder how it would affect me (if i still lived there). Lots of angles and analogies to describe what I'm talking about. A fish you catch/keep is one I cannot. Jig and minnows and slip corks catch plenty of fish, and certainly are the best tools in certain times of the year. But I'm here to tell you boys Lindy Rigs, Slow Death, spinners, etc. are going to put more walleyes in anglers creels without question. Motivated anglers will find out big muskies aren't the only big fish that spend time in the basin on those little Cisco puddles...
A fish you sore mouth towing a depth raider while eating a sammich at noon today is not one I can catch casting the basin tomorrow. (This ought to be good to keep this going).. I for one believe ONE of the reasons Muskie fishing in MN was extraordinary is because suckers were rarely used. A neutral fish you catch on a sucker today is not one I can catch on a hard bait in two days when she turns on. I'm selfish. When I fish, I want to catch as many as I can. Maybe I'm just a jaded jerk. I just don't get a warm fuzzy feeling to know you caught a bunch of fish. Some folks on here used to share patterns and even (shore) spots on this very board. They were warned. They called us selfish. "We're supposed to share our sport" they said. "It's all about helping other anglers" they said. Shucks. They got burned. Their shore spots were burned and shared with the rest of the University. Play time was over...
Just another viewpoint I haven't seen expressed yet.
Let her rip...
The reason the MN fishery was extraordinary was because of the "new resevoir syndrome" not because of little to no sucker fishing. SMH
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tfootstalker - 5/26/2015 6:29 PM
Tragedy of the commons.
From a merely selfish perspective mind you. While it likely will not cause a tragedy in terms of depleting a fishery, I can't help but wonder how it would affect me (if i still lived there). Lots of angles and analogies to describe what I'm talking about. A fish you catch/keep is one I cannot. Jig and minnows and slip corks catch plenty of fish, and certainly are the best tools in certain times of the year. But I'm here to tell you boys Lindy Rigs, Slow Death, spinners, etc. are going to put more walleyes in anglers creels without question. Motivated anglers will find out big muskies aren't the only big fish that spend time in the basin on those little Cisco puddles...
A fish you sore mouth towing a depth raider while eating a sammich at noon today is not one I can catch casting the basin tomorrow. (This ought to be good to keep this going).. I for one believe ONE of the reasons Muskie fishing in MN was extraordinary is because suckers were rarely used. A neutral fish you catch on a sucker today is not one I can catch on a hard bait in two days when she turns on. I'm selfish. When I fish, I want to catch as many as I can. Maybe I'm just a jaded jerk. I just don't get a warm fuzzy feeling to know you caught a bunch of fish. Some folks on here used to share patterns and even (shore) spots on this very board. They were warned. They called us selfish. "We're supposed to share our sport" they said. "It's all about helping other anglers" they said. Shucks. They got burned. Their shore spots were burned and shared with the rest of the University. Play time was over...
Just another viewpoint I haven't seen expressed yet.
Let her rip...
The reason the MN fishery was extraordinary was because of the "new resevoir syndrome" not because of little to no sucker fishing. SMH
I get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing how many fish I have caught. If you want to get your arse handed to you in November casting be my guest. I'll be the guy posting pics of 50"s.
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castmaster - 6/2/2015 4:21 PM tfootstalker - 5/26/2015 6:29 PM Tragedy of the commons. From a merely selfish perspective mind you. While it likely will not cause a tragedy in terms of depleting a fishery, I can't help but wonder how it would affect me (if i still lived there ). Lots of angles and analogies to describe what I'm talking about. A fish you catch/keep is one I cannot. Jig and minnows and slip corks catch plenty of fish, and certainly are the best tools in certain times of the year. But I'm here to tell you boys Lindy Rigs, Slow Death, spinners, etc. are going to put more walleyes in anglers creels without question. Motivated anglers will find out big muskies aren't the only big fish that spend time in the basin on those little Cisco puddles... A fish you sore mouth towing a depth raider while eating a sammich at noon today is not one I can catch casting the basin tomorrow. (This ought to be good to keep this going ).. I for one believe ONE of the reasons Muskie fishing in MN was extraordinary is because suckers were rarely used. A neutral fish you catch on a sucker today is not one I can catch on a hard bait in two days when she turns on. I'm selfish. When I fish, I want to catch as many as I can. Maybe I'm just a jaded jerk. I just don't get a warm fuzzy feeling to know you caught a bunch of fish. Some folks on here used to share patterns and even (shore ) spots on this very board. They were warned. They called us selfish. "We're supposed to share our sport" they said. "It's all about helping other anglers" they said. Shucks. They got burned. Their shore spots were burned and shared with the rest of the University. Play time was over... Just another viewpoint I haven't seen expressed yet. Let her rip... And yet MN was "extraordinary" while BOTH trolling was legal and practiced by many. Sucker fishing was/is legal in MN of course, just not much incentive with the 1 line law. Yet, from little 200 acre lakes to BIG water, there are still fish to be had and both methods have been legal longer than most of us on here have been fishing. Hmmmm And a fish you catch on a hardbait today may be one I won't be able to catch on topwater in 2 days when she turns on? So perhaps YOU shouldn't fish the baits you like? But I suppose your just more important than the next guy right? The glorious "ME" generation, lol. Trolling open water is (just barely) still a "new" thing in MN. Being legal and people doing it are two different things. We could also debate wether or not it was legal actually. Before they changed the rule it was illegal to transport live suckers longer than 12". You'd certainly catch that fish on your topwater if I never came to your lake. Is the next guy more important than me? No. No he's not. Do we all deserve equal portions? Are all species equally socialized then? |
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Location: Nowheresville, MN | Cfollow - 6/2/2015 9:32 PM tfootstalker - 5/26/2015 6:29 PM Tragedy of the commons. From a merely selfish perspective mind you. While it likely will not cause a tragedy in terms of depleting a fishery, I can't help but wonder how it would affect me (if i still lived there). Lots of angles and analogies to describe what I'm talking about. A fish you catch/keep is one I cannot. Jig and minnows and slip corks catch plenty of fish, and certainly are the best tools in certain times of the year. But I'm here to tell you boys Lindy Rigs, Slow Death, spinners, etc. are going to put more walleyes in anglers creels without question. Motivated anglers will find out big muskies aren't the only big fish that spend time in the basin on those little Cisco puddles... A fish you sore mouth towing a depth raider while eating a sammich at noon today is not one I can catch casting the basin tomorrow. (This ought to be good to keep this going).. I for one believe ONE of the reasons Muskie fishing in MN was extraordinary is because suckers were rarely used. A neutral fish you catch on a sucker today is not one I can catch on a hard bait in two days when she turns on. I'm selfish. When I fish, I want to catch as many as I can. Maybe I'm just a jaded jerk. I just don't get a warm fuzzy feeling to know you caught a bunch of fish. Some folks on here used to share patterns and even (shore) spots on this very board. They were warned. They called us selfish. "We're supposed to share our sport" they said. "It's all about helping other anglers" they said. Shucks. They got burned. Their shore spots were burned and shared with the rest of the University. Play time was over... Just another viewpoint I haven't seen expressed yet. Let her rip... The reason the MN fishery was extraordinary was because of the "new resevoir syndrome" not because of little to no sucker fishing. SMH I get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing how many fish I have caught. If you want to get your arse handed to you in November casting be my guest. I'll be the guy posting pics of 50"s. So just that ONE reason only? I'm the one shaking my head... Yes. We all look forward to your yearly pictures from Harriet, Calhoun and Minnetonka. I don't know how many are 50" though. |
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| tfootstalker - 6/4/2015 7:54 AM
Cfollow - 6/2/2015 9:32 PM tfootstalker - 5/26/2015 6:29 PM Tragedy of the commons. From a merely selfish perspective mind you. While it likely will not cause a tragedy in terms of depleting a fishery, I can't help but wonder how it would affect me (if i still lived there). Lots of angles and analogies to describe what I'm talking about. A fish you catch/keep is one I cannot. Jig and minnows and slip corks catch plenty of fish, and certainly are the best tools in certain times of the year. But I'm here to tell you boys Lindy Rigs, Slow Death, spinners, etc. are going to put more walleyes in anglers creels without question. Motivated anglers will find out big muskies aren't the only big fish that spend time in the basin on those little Cisco puddles... A fish you sore mouth towing a depth raider while eating a sammich at noon today is not one I can catch casting the basin tomorrow. (This ought to be good to keep this going).. I for one believe ONE of the reasons Muskie fishing in MN was extraordinary is because suckers were rarely used. A neutral fish you catch on a sucker today is not one I can catch on a hard bait in two days when she turns on. I'm selfish. When I fish, I want to catch as many as I can. Maybe I'm just a jaded jerk. I just don't get a warm fuzzy feeling to know you caught a bunch of fish. Some folks on here used to share patterns and even (shore) spots on this very board. They were warned. They called us selfish. "We're supposed to share our sport" they said. "It's all about helping other anglers" they said. Shucks. They got burned. Their shore spots were burned and shared with the rest of the University. Play time was over... Just another viewpoint I haven't seen expressed yet. Let her rip... The reason the MN fishery was extraordinary was because of the "new resevoir syndrome" not because of little to no sucker fishing. SMH I get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing how many fish I have caught. If you want to get your arse handed to you in November casting be my guest. I'll be the guy posting pics of 50"s. So just that ONE reason only? I'm the one shaking my head... Yes. We all look forward to your yearly pictures from Harriet, Calhoun and Minnetonka. I don't know how many are 50" though.
Yes, just the one reason. Are you convincing yourself the reason lakes like Vermillion, Mille Lacs, Minnetonka, Pelican and others have become more difficult for you to catch fish chucking lures is because of an increase in sucker fishing? Get real!!
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